A third Revolutionary War?

If there was such a thing, it would only happen because God ordained it to happen.

As someone who grew up in the 1960s, I haven't seen anything yet rise anywhere close to the turmoil of the 1960s - early 1970s. I know that a lot of millennials and younger think history began with their birth, but those of us with a much longer time frame know better.

 

The food system would collapse. Shipments of chicks to farms like mine would stop. Shipment of seeds to farms would stop. Livestock feed would not be produced.

Anybody that has never worked a garden or raised food before would likely die or be malnourished.

Urban blue areas would collapse. Suburban areas could produce enough calories to survive if lawn is converted to garden, but how many yuppies know how to produce food?

Rural areas would be least impacted. My farm would have to stop producing meat chickens.

I've got a 6 month supply of canned goods plus:
-A large garden I grow every year
-Propane kitchen stove hooked up to 500 gallons of propane
-Wood stove, which we already heat with from Sept thru May, with 3 cord of dry wood in a pole barn
-Extremely good relations with all my neighbors and we all have similar mindsets
-A 6ft wide creek, 1ft deep that flows year round. I am 500ft downstream from the springs.

If we include freezer stock and assume the grid stays on I have an additional:
-150lbs of beef
-250lbs of pork
-500lbs of chicken
-200lbs of turkey
~50lbs of goose/duck

Plus on any given day:
-300 live meat chickens of varying ages
-150 laying hens of varying ages
-80 turkeys

So, myself and my neighbors would be fine for at least a year if things went bad. And if things got hot and spicy my neighbors and I are proud hillbillies with trackhoes, tractors, road graders, bulldozers, dump trucks and guns out the wazoo, and many thousands of rounds of ammunition between us. A dump truck's steel bed loaded up with some armed hillbillies defending their home in it ain't a joke. There ain't but one paved road into our holler here so we're quite secure and when the snows start in October thru May ain't nobody getting up road grade without an active DOT salting it.

Nothing in my religious views would change. I'd change Churches to our local community Mennonite Church though. We already visit there often. We could walk to it easy.

Parts of my community didn't get electric until the 1950s, very late for the Eastern U.S. Some folk are still alive that lived without electricity as kids. Many houses are spring-fed and on the old 110 electric.

 

I likewise grew up in the 60's and 70's and have never seen the political corruption as we have today. As bad as Jimmy Carter was at least he was not corrupt in my view.

As to the original post, I am just waiting for the judgments of God and some chastening to correct this corruption. As to what Bible Thumpin and Gun Totin said, the Lord may just allow a financial collapse to occur to chasten this nation.

It's all a matter of time, sooner or later there will be a breaking point with God when He gets a belly full and, in my view, we may now be in 'that generation' (Gen 15:16; Pro 30:11-14) KJV.

 

The corruption of culture is clearly traced to the culture wars of the 1960s. In that time we see Satan asking people the question "hath God said?" People began to cast off the values of their heritage and embrace other gods that they felt enlightened them.
We now have third and fourth generation "samaritans" who have made god in their image and demand that all bow down to their god.
There was an opportunity for a "King Josiah" to lead, but that time is past. The culture war is lost to a form of christianity without any power to redeem.

As for hoarding materials in preparation, everyone has to consider their conscience. I was listening to a podcast where the speaker said that in the Lord's Prayer Reformed believers are monergists regarding God's Sovereignty, but in trusting for daily bread we act like Pelagians. We think that we have to plan, organize, and resolve it all ourselves. Yet, in the prayer it says "give us this day our daily bread." Do we really believe that God will provide us with the "manna" needed for the day as we walk to the Promised Land? Do we pray for the Peace of the City in which we live as exiles?

 

Good questions. In my view, preparing a bit is not a lack of faith, rather it is being able to help others should hard times come. Sort of like Jospeh's vision to prepare during the 7 years of plenty before the 7 years of drought came.

"The preparations of the heart in man, and the answer of the tongue, is from the LORD" (Proverbs 16:1) KJV.

I agree that the corruption of culture began in the 60's and in my view we as a nation are skating on thin ice in the eyes of God.

 

We do have to plan, organize and resolve it. If you don't work you don't eat. A farmer has to plant the right seed at the right time with the right nutrients at the correct planting density then God has to water it correctly, and God has to give it sun. For millennia families worked their land, produced food during the growing season, and then hoard that food to live during the winter and spring which are the most barren seasons. It's God's plan.

So much of the Western World is so disconnected from the land that God orders them to till that they don't realize this. They think that cantaloupes in the fruit and veg section of a grocery store is normal in February. And if things ever go bad they'll be fleeing to the countryside and communities like mine will have to turn them away because our God-given duty as men and heads of household is to our families first.

 

Yep, when God gave his people manna everyday in the wilderness as they walked to the Promised Land, the people had to gather it. When they tried to hoard it, God made it spoil and rot. God required them to trust Him for their daily bread.
We Christians seem to think God is kidding around about us asking Him to provide our daily bread. Instead we think we have to prepare our bunkers for the doomsday and setup our guns to ward off the evil that is coming. But, God doesn't work that way. God says to trust Him. He cares for the sparrow and so He will care for us. Reynolds, give your storehouse away to the needy who need it right now. Trust God for your daily bread. God will provide for you. If you hoard it, God will cause it to be ruined before your eyes

 

I’m jealous

I’m not as stocked as you

we are neighbors. NW South Carolina here

 

I get what you are saying

There are also other examples.

The story of Joseph stockpiling for several years due to famine

 

Where does God order Gentiles to till the land? People may till the land, but I know of no command to the elect to till the land.

 

As a government administrator ordered by God. Where do we see God ordering this decree to Christians?
Now, being wise with our money and helping our brothers is certainly expressed. But hoarding is always expressed by God to his people as a lack of faith on the part of the person who is hoarding. Jesus never told his disciples to hoard food. He simply taught us to pray and trust God for our daily bread. If we die from lack of food, is God unkind? Is he looking upon us and judging us as having failed him? No. God says he feeds the sparrows and we are of much greater value than sparrows. Do we trust what God tells us or will we be like Pelagians in our faith?

 

Wow that was a good laugh. Yuppies are always amusing, especially when they throw-out 6000 years of agricultural history.

Guess what, when it's 0 degrees out, blowing snow with 50mph winds, your house hasn't had power for a week, and the 30% grade roads are covered with ice and blocked with 8ft snow drifts, God does not rain down seasoned firewood, food and unfrozen water from the sky onto unprepared fools. Sorry to disappoint you.

You know what God does do? God gives you wisdom to store up your harvest for the lean months. You know, like civilizations have done for 6000 YEARS prior to the recent invention of the supermarket (Which doesn't work when the power goes out *HINT HINT*)

Imagine how many folk were sinning in Autumn for the past 6000 years. The audacity they had to store up grain and root crops in granaries. I think they even dug their taters, carrots and onions and then these satanists stuck them in something called a root cellar! And the evil of salt boxes to store your pork cuts and cure them over-winter. And smokehouses, that evil jerky! And then they had a community defense to protect their families from barbarians. Bad, bad ancestors! And don't get me started on properly winterizing your spring box for a water supply.

Oh man, city people are at least good for a laugh. Clearly all food is grown in the back of a grocery store and the store will never lose power.

 

Do you doubt that God will provide our needs, or is that all on you to provide and hoard?

Do you understand how Christian community works or did God call us to extreme individualism?

What I read from you is a purely humanistic response to life that demands man do all the work and fix the problem because God is on the sideline for such things.

Finally, if God ordains our death by starvation, is God evil?

Thumping, you show me that the speaker on the podcast is not wrong. Many Christians live trusting God for salvation but act as Pelagians for everyday living.

 

I will let our King speak to this issue.

*Matthew 6:9-13*

Pray then like this: “Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.

*Matthew 6:19-34*

“Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rustdestroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. “The eye is the lamp of the body. So, if your eye is healthy, your whole body will be full of light, but if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light in you is darkness, how great is the darkness! “No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money. “Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink, nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing? Look at the birds of the air: they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? And which of you by being anxious can add a single hour to his span of life? And why are you anxious about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin, yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is alive and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? Therefore do not be anxious, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ For the Gentiles seek after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them all. But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you. “Therefore do not be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.

 

It would be a quick war. The U.S. military would easily put down anything Trump insurrectionists could throw at them. Don't kid yourself. You AR-19's won't stand up to a tank or fighter aircraft. All the traitors will be put in military prisons..

 

Put your misinterpretations to good use, and put your money where your mouth is.

Lock your doors, sit on your rear in your living room for 4 months and do nothing but pray for food and water. Let me know how that goes after 4 months.

If you don't do that you're a Pelagian and not trusting God.

 

Just like in Afghanistan.

 

The problem for you is that, unlike Afghanistan, the majority in your State would be against you and supporting the military as they cheered for your defeat. This would not be a Revolutionary War where people supported you. You would be labeled an insurrectionist and traitor (even if you thought otherwise). You would be a "John Brown."