Trump 2024?

A year ago 74% of Republicans wanted to see Trump run in 2024. Now that has fallen to 33%.

It seems much of this is related to a few factors - how Trump has conducted himself post election, Trumps role in sabotaging the never to materialize "red wave", some facts that have come out in the past year, etc.

But among Republicans there is still a desire to keep the platform, just not Trump.

So how do you think this will turn out?

If not chosen as the GOP candidate, will Trump run and split the party (guaranteeing a DNC win)?

Will a Trump endorsement have the same negative effect we saw in the past midterm election?

How should the GOP proceed? How should Trump proceed?

 

The one political system is definitely against anybody who is not a part of the system. That is one reason they didn't like Trump.

But now tables have turned. TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) is now a disease affecting the alt-right. The Dems have TFS (Trump Fixation Syndrome).

Interestingly enough the symptoms ate the same - sheeple simply can't move on.

But now is the perfect time for the GOP and true conservatives.

Let the DNC fixate on Trump, the 2020 election, and Jan 6.

Ditch Trump (he is no longer a viable candidate) and move on to concentrating on the future of America. Hit the Dems whike they are stuck looking back.

The GOP needs to make it clear that Trump is a lost cause, take his platform and come up with several potential nominees.

But they need to start now and not wait until a year before the election.

 

I agree.

One of the absolute best things Trump did was shine light on the Swamp (both the DNC and the GOP). Neither side liked having a non-career politician as POTUS.

It is post-election that has cemented Trump's status as a liability.

I wish Trump had simply conceded that the 2020 election was lost - even if by fraud- and looked to 2024.

But he didn't. Now, right or wrong, Trump is toxic to any hope of defeating the DNC in 2024. The 2022 midterms demonstrated this. Had Trump backed away quietly the GOP may possibly control the Senate and have a strong hold in the House. But he didn't.

The things that made Trump a strong businessman and President are proving to be his downfall.

 

The GOP is in a difficult spot. If they ditch Trump they lose votes. If they keep Trump they lose votes.

If, however, Trump himself draws back then the GOP is rescued from that spot.


I think the crux of the issue is how the GOP would fare against the DNC with Trump running as the GOP nominee.

We already know that a substantial portion of Republicans would not vote for Trump. Some may vote for the DNC candidate, others for an independent.

A Trump nominee would place the election in the hands of the DNC (of their nominee, if not Biden).

A Trump GOP nominee vs a moderate DNC nominee would mean a DNC win (probably for two terms). Biden vs Trump would probably be a Biden win.

Now...Trump vs Harris may offer a glimmer of hope.

BUT if the GOP keeps Trump's platform with a better nominee then the DNC would have cause to worry.

 

I'm not sure that Trump (or people's rejection of Trump) is any indication of the "falling away".

I think what Scripture generally points to with people "falling away" is departing from the faith, not a politician.

 

I look at it this way:

Look at Trump.
Look at Biden.

If these two are really the best we have to offer then we're pretty much done as a nation.

 

The GOP will select a presidential nominee at the 2024 Republican National Convention. If Trump is nominated then he will be the 2024 Republican nominee (he will be the GOP candidate for the office of President).

The GOP platform (the Trump Administration platform for term he served as POTUS) is something many Republicans can get behind, even if they can't get behind Trump.

We do not know the degree of fraud. Trump said he won GA. But the evidence, unfortunately, points to a Biden win. Other claims could be the same.

States need to do a better job against voter fraud - regardless of whether it is Republican fraud (like the official looking uniforms used in CA for door to door canvassing) or Democrat fraud (like dead people voting).

But the 2020 election pretty much discredits the idea that one party steals entire elections. But it is always the claim (no matter we which party wins).

 

It all boils down to talking points. Highlight unemployment rate, inflation, ect. and sheeple will follow peacefully if you are their leader.

The GOP now cry inflation while the DNC points to the fact Biden has a lower unemployment rate. If inflation was down Biden would be praising that while the GOP would be complaining about unemployment.

Yet a basic (a very basic) fact is inflation and unemployment vary inversely.

My point is economics take a back seat to political camps. It isn't that sheeple don't know, it's about what they can or cannot use as talking points.

 

Not at all. For the most part Trump's platform was simply the Republican platform.

That said, it is true that Trump assistance in the 2024 election has a chance to backfire. It did with the 2022 midterm election. The DNC was not the only reason there was no "red wave".

The GOP would do well to keep Trumps platform as over 75% of Republicans like the platform. But with only a 33% approval rate among Republicans, Trump would be a very poor choice.