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Featured Recognizing Regular Distinctives of Baptists

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Van, Mar 8, 2023.

  1. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
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    "Major Baptist convictions include: Believer’s baptism; “soul competence” and “soul freedom”; local church autonomy; religious liberty for all; and the separation of church and state."

    Actually the above only applies to non-Calvinistic Baptists. But on the other side of the ledger, we have Believer's baptism, adherence to Reformed Soteriolgy, and separation of church and state.

    On one side we have soul competence, soul freedom of choice, and on the other side, total spiritual inability of the lost.
     
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    Dead in sin means dead in sin Van. Furthermore it means the lost are at enmity with God --hostility toward him. The lost are in an enslaved state. They walk in darkness. They are spiritually blind. The message of the cross is foolishness to them. These people can't understand the things of the Spirit of God.
     
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    LOL, we know what Reformed Soteriolgy is, no need to present it.

    "Conviction No. 2: “Soul competence” and “soul freedom.” These 17th century words mean every person is spiritually competent to open the Bible and, led by the Spirit, interpret it for their life and faith. And if competent should be free."

    As should be obvious, the two views are incompatible, yet both claim to be Baptist.
     
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    'Lost' denotes something out of place, as in 'lost sheep'. Lost, but still sheep nevertheless (in lieu of goats). It is the NATURAL MAN, void of the spirit, that cannot receive the things of the spirit of God. 1 Corinthians 2:14
     
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    I’m going to ask my son when he comes to my house next week, doyou not understand the things of the spirit of God…anxious to hear his response
     
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    Every soul entering life is lost. They are unregenerate. They do not have the Spirit of God. They are in the natural realm. Some will remain lost; other lost ones will receive the Spirit of God. They will become born again --regenerate --saved.
     
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    You got scripture that defines lost as unregenerate, i.e., hell bound?
     
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    I think you will agree, there is no such teaching as "total spiritual inability" in the written word of God.
     
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    The scripture does NOT agree!

     
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    LOL times two, we know what Reformed Soteriolgy is, the antithesis of our well known Baptist distinctive.
     
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    LOL times three, we know what Reformed Soteriology is, the antithesis of our well known Baptist distinctive.
     
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    Yes, I do not think those specific words are found, but in Matthew 13, soil #1 suffers from the inability to receive the gospel message. However, the false doctrine claims that "soil #1 condition" is the condition of each and every person from conception to regeneration. Utter nonsense. Verses after verse tells us that the lost have sought God, have willed to be saved, have engaged in ministry, and so forth and so on.
     
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    Would it be accurate to proclaim that Reformed Baptists are irregular Baptists in that they do not share all the Baptist distinctives.
    For example a church does not have the liberty or freedom to decide for themselves what they believe, they must adhere to Reformed Soteriolgy imported from Reformed Theology.
     
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    Ever wonder why Jesus said, 'you of little faith" rather than you of total spiritual inability? :)
     
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    No, I do not wonder about that. Jesus was speaking of His own.
     
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    Luke 12:28 (NET)
    And if this is how God clothes the wild grass, which is here today and tomorrow is tossed into the fire to heat the oven, how much more will he clothe you, you people of little faith!

    If God bestowed your supposed "gift of faith" it would not be "little." Thus your doctrine is obviously false.
     
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    This do you any good?

    I. THE NECESSITY OF THE NEW BIRTH.

    "A. In John 3:3 and 5, our Lord makes it clear that regeneration is necessary to salvation. Man not only needs forgiveness before he can fellowship with God, but his whole nature must be renewed. Fallen man is natural (I Corinthians 2:14), sensual (Jude 19), and carnal (Romans 8:5-7), as opposed to spiritual (I Corinthians 2:15). Christ reveals that there is an unchangeable distinction between that which is born of flesh and that which is born of the Spirit. The flesh may be religious, refined, educated and outwardly moral, but it is still flesh (John 3:6).

    "B. Every part of the natural man is defiled by sin. His mind is darkened to the things of God (I Corinthians 1:18, 2:14, Ephesians 4:18). His heart is in a state of enmity toward God (Romans 8:7, Jeremiah 17:9). His will is only free to carry out the desires of his depraved nature (John 1:13, Romans 9:16, Philippians 2:13). The flesh has become totally unprofitable in the things of God (John 6:63)."

    Ephesians 2:3; "Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others."

    HOLY SPIRIT INFLUENCES on the lost that God later Saves.
     
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    No. In no way does that define 'lost' as hell-bound.

    Does this sound right to you?:
    24 But he answered and said, I was not sent but unto the hell-bound sheep of the house of Israel. Mt 15
     
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    Apart from God, of course, it does.

    "24 But he answered and said, I was not sent but unto the hell-bound sheep, (apart from the Infinite, Undeserved Mercy of God) of the house of Israel." Mt 15

    All human beings deserved the fires of Hell.

    Had it not been for God choosing some.

    In His Infinite Mercy, God chooses to Save some from The Wrath of God to come, by the Pleasure of His Own Will.

    Them, He denominates as sheep, after He Chose to bestow on His Elect His Infinite, Undeserved Mercy.

    YOU don't have to Worship Him that way, for what He Delivered His Chosen Elect sheep from, or like this:


    "Ephesians 2:3; "Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind;

    "and
    were by nature the children of wrath,
    and Hellbound, Apart from the Infinite, Undeserved Mercy of God,
    even as others."
     
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    Only in you 'hell on the brain' mind. His sheep were never hell-bound.

    You seriously need to compare Ezekiel 34 with John 10 to get a correct understanding of 'lost sheep'.
     
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