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"Come Christians, What Have You to Say To-night to God’s Loving Us From Eternity?"

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by KenH, May 17, 2023.

  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    What shall we then say to these things? Romans 8:31.

    This is a most disagreeable chapter to free-will, pride, and self-righteous spirits. For it cuts the very sinews of boasting. It lays all sinners upon a level, while it proclaims salvation by sovereign grace.
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    Come Christians, what have you to say to-night to God’s loving us from eternity—choosing us in Christ, and blessing us with all spiritual blessings in him, before the foundation of the world—redeeming us by Christ, in the fulness of time—calling us to Christ, in the day of his power—pardoning our sins, and justifying us by Christ in the time of love—enabling our hearts to choose Christ, and walk with him in holiness? What shall we say to these things? Say! with our Lord, in sweet submission to his sovereign will, even so, Father, for it seemed good in thy sight. We give thee the glory of all. We welcome these things as the glory of our souls. Glory to thee, O Spirit, for opening our blind eyes to see the glory of them, and humbling our proud hearts to submit to them.
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    Base pride and wicked unbelief
    Reject thy truths, O Lord!
    Hence conscience gets no sweet relief,
    No comfort from thy word.

    My God, instead of bold replies
    Against thy sov’reign grace;
    Teach me that here true wisdom lies,
    To bow before thy face.

    - excerpt from William Mason's A Spiritual Treasury For The Children of God, Volume 2, May 17
     
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    1 Corinthians 1: 30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

    31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.


    Brother Glen:)
     
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    It is how God foreknows us. 1 Peter 1:2, ". . . according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, . . ."
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    1 John 4:19, ". . . We love him, because he first loved us. . . ."
     
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    Please explain foreknowledge.
     
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    The poem contradicts the doctrine of determinism you try to pump. A person cannot reject something unless they can likewise receive it. To Reject requires more than one option. It is a verb.

    I am perplexed by the insane reasoning of the Reformed.
     
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    Can you point to a specific phrase that explains your statement, as I have no issue with what I posted.
     
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    I am not "Reformed" nor a "Calvinist". I believe that I am saved by God's sovereign grace. I am not saved by looking to "reform" my beliefs nor by looking to "reform" my character. I am not saved by looking to follow John Calvin.
     
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    There is no such thing as sovereign grace. That is a made up doctrine.
     
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    Daniel 4:35 All the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?

    Isaiah 46:9-10 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure

    Psalms 115:3 But our God is in the heavens: He hath done whatsoever he hath pleased.
     
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