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A Weakness Of The KJV...

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by RipponRedeaux, May 18, 2023.

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    ... and to a lesser extent many other English Bible versions too.

    Many times the words justice and righteousness are used interchangeably. But the word justice has been given short shrift.

    The KJV uses the word justice a grand total of 28 times in the entire Bible. That's shameful.

    WEB : 120
    NIV : 130
    NKJV : 136
    ESV : 138
    NET : 141
    NASB : 148
    CSB : 153
    EHV : 169
    LEB : 171
    NLT : 173
    LSB : 174
    ISV : 175
    NRSV : 175
    NCB : 213
    CEB : 220
    NABRE : 238

    The NABRE is the winner.

    In the Old Testament alone :

    KJV : 28
    NIV, WEB : 115
    NRSV : 125
    ESV, NET : 127
    NKJV : 128
    NASB : 136
    CSB : 139
    NLT : 151
    EHV : 154
    CEB : 156
    LEB : 158
    ISV : 160
    LSB : 163
    NCB : 192
    NABRE : 231

    Again, the winner is the NABRE.

    In the New Testament alone :

    KJV : 0
    WEB : 5
    NABRE : 7
    NKJV : 8
    MOUNCE, LSB, ESV : 11
    NASB : 12
    LEB : 13
    NRSV, NET, CSB : 14
    NIV, ISV, EHV : 15
    NCB : 21
    NLT : 22
    CEB : 25

    CEB is the winner. The NABRE didn't do so well this time.

    Considering the three categories NCB came out on top.
     
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    Jer. 33:16 snip :
    NET : The Lord has provided us with justice
    NABRE : The Lord our justice
    KJV : The Lord our righteousness.

    In overwhelming numbers the English versions use the KJV wording.

    The Spanish versions use the wording "Jehova, justicia nuestra" meaning Jehova, our justice.

    The Revised Martin Luther Text (1985) has the word 'gerechtigkeit (justice) 306 times in the whole canon.

    The French Nouvelle Version Segond Revisee has justice 380 times.

    Perhaps we are missing something significant in our English Bible versions.
     
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    I will contrast the wording of the NLT and KJV in 22 verses. But mostly I will be doing snippets.

    The NLT reading is at the top and the KJV rendering is below.

    Matt. 5:6
    God blesses those who hunger and thirst for justice
    Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness

    Matt, 12:18
    he will proclaim justice to the nations
    he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles

    Matt. 12:20
    he will cause justice to be victorious
    till he send forth judgment unto victory

    Matt. 23:23
    you ignore the more important aspects of the law --justice, mercy, and faith
    have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy and faith

    Luke 11:42
    you ignore justice and the love of God
    pass over judgment and the love of God

    Luke 18:3
    Give me justice in the dispute with my enemy
    Avenge me of mine adversary

    Luke 18:5
    I'm going to see that she gets justice
    I will avenge her

    Luke 18:7
    God will surely give justice to his chosen people
    And shall not God avenge his own elect

    Luke 18:8
    he will grant justice to them quickly!
    he will avenge them speedily

    To be continued.
     
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    Acts 8:33
    He was humiliated and received no justice
    In his humiliation his judgment was taken away

    Acts 17:31
    For he has set a day for judging the world with justice
    Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness

    Acts 28:4
    Though he escaped the sea, justice will not permit him to live
    though he hath escaped the sea, yet vengeance suffereth not to live

    Romans 1:32
    They know God's justice requires that those who do these things deserve to die
    Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death

    Romans 2:2
    And we know that God in his justice, will punish anyone who does such things
    But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things

    Galatians 6:7
    Don't be misled --you cannot mock the justice of God
    Be not deceived: God is not mocked : for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap

    2 Thessalonians 1:5
    And God will use this persecution to show his justice
    which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God

    2 Thessalonians 1:6
    In his justice he will pay back those who persecute you
    Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you

    Hebrews 1:8
    You rule with a scepter of justice
    a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of they kingdom

    Hebrews 1:9
    You love justice and hate evil
    Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity

    Hebrews 7:2
    The name Melchizedek means "king of justice"
    by interpretation king of righteousness

    Hebrews 11:33
    By faith those people overthrew kingdoms, ruled with justice
    who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness

    2 Peter 1:1
    This gaith was given to you because of the justice and fairness of Jesus Christ, our God and Savior
    to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ
     
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    The 1560 Geneva Bible sometimes had the rendering "justice" where the KJV has "righteousness" or another rendering.

    Job 29:14 justice (Geneva) righteousness (KJV, NKJV)
    Ps. 94:15 to justice (Geneva) unto righteousness (KJV) to righteousness (NKJV)
    Ps. 99:4 justice (Geneva) righteousness (KJV, NKJV)
    Prov. 14:34 Justice (Geneva) Righteousness (KJV, NKJV)
    Eccl. 7:15 in his justice (Geneva) in his righteousness (KJV, NKJV)
    Isa. 32:1 in justice (Geneva) in righteousness (KJV, NKJV)
    Isa. 33:15 in justice (Geneva) righteously (KJV, NKJV)

    Ps. 146:7 justice (Geneva, NKJV) judgment (KJV)
     
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