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Byzantine K^r group.

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    Family Kr - Wikipedia

    Family 35 is to be understood as a part of K^r set. The Wikipedia may have misrepresented this. (As of 21 May 2023)
     
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    There is the primary bias against the Byzantine text type!
    Majority Text vs. Critical Text: Part One
    ""It was the CORRUPT BYZANTINE form of text that provided the basis for almost all translations of the New Testament into modern languages down to the nineteenth century." This quote is from Bruce Metzger's book, A Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament. . . ."

    A bad bias of this article is shown in misrepresenting the meaning of Psalms 12:7. "Psalm 12:6,7 declares:
    THE WORDS OF THE LORD ARE PURE WORDS: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, THOU SHALT PRESERVE THEM from this generation. . . ." Which verse 7 "THEM" actually refers to persons, not the word. See 1611 KJV Hebrew note.
     
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    @Conan, thank you.

    Amazon to get a printed edition. A free copy is available from Dr. A Pickering's website.

    https://www.prunch.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Identity-of-the-New-Testament-Text-IV.pdf
     
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    From 37818's link above
    Majority Text vs. Critical Text: Part One

    "They then write:
    From the present perspective, the Byzantine-Alexandrian and Byzantine-Western alignments are merely those autograph readings of the Byzantine Textform from which the Alexandrian or Western manuscripts did NOT deviate - a very different picture. Thus, the Alexandrian manuscripts are themselves far more "Byzantine" than they have been given credit for, if only their readings are first considered from a Byzantine-priority perspective (p.xxxv; emphasis in original"
     
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    https://www.amazon.com/New-Testament-Original-Greek-Byzantine/dp/395776100X

    It's apparatus is simple, the given Byzantine reading followed by the NU reading.
    If there is a diferent TR reading a second apparatus just above that apparatus is provided.

    There is much similarity between it and the Family 35 Greek text. F35GNT provided apparatuse is more complete.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/0997468688/ref=sr_1_5?crid=200XI7ZU6PTGT&keywords=wilbur+pickering&qid=1593459279&s=books&sprefix=wilbur+pick,aps,291&sr=1-5
     
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    Reading regarding the NA28 and UBS5/28. Both currently use the same text. The difference is in their apparatus. The NA28 is intended for scholarly research. And the UBS 28 apparatus is different being for translators and students of the Greek text.
     
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    FYI. The best representation of the text from the New Testament autographs are most likely the texts identified as Family 35.
     
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    The following link of this 2016 KJV has it's italics.
    Matthew 26 King James Version 2016 - Textus Receptus
     
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