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TWO DISCIPLES OF CHRIST

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  1. Alex2165

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    Two disciples of Jesus.


    Luke 24.13-45
    13. And behold, two of them were going that very day to a village named *Emmaus, which was about seven miles from Jerusalem.

    ~ 13. *Emmaus. The village to which two disciples were going on the day of Jesus' resurrection, when he met and was recognized by them as He broke bread at supper (Luke 24.7-35). It was about 7 miles (12 km) from Jerusalem, in what direction is not stated, through possibly to the NW. One site, Amwas is 20 miles (33 km). (some MSS read 160 stadia) from the city - too far to suit Luke's narrative. Kubeibeh, Kuloniych, and other sites have their partisans.
    The ruins of Amwas is one of the possible sites for Emmaus, where Cleopas and his companion saw the risen Jesus, as told in the Gospel of Luke. (Luke 24.50-53. A.G)
    The New International Dictionary of the Bible. J. D. Douglas, Merrill C. Tenney.


    18. And one of them named *Cleopas answered and said to Him (to Jesus), 'Are You the only one visiting Jerusalem and unaware of the things which have happened here in these days?'

    ~ 18. *Cleopas. Mentioned in John 19.25 (KJV, Cleophas) as the husband of Mary, one of the women who stood beside the cross and who is described as a sister of the mother of Jesus. He is not the same as the Cleopas who walked with Jesus to Emmaus (Luke 24.18).
    The New International Dictionary of the Bible. J. D. Douglas, Merrill C. Tenney.

    ~ 18. *Cleopas, Clopas. The husband of Mary, one of the women who was present at the crucifixion of Jesus (Cleophas in KJV). According to tradition, Clopas was the same person as Alphaeus, the father of James the less and of Joses (Joseph, Jones) (Matthew 10.3) (Mark 15.40). Most scholars agree that Clopas is not the same person as Cleopas (Luke 24.18).
    Compact Bible Dictionary, Ronald.F. Youngblood, F.F. Bruce, R.K. Harrison.


    Some scholars believe that the second man was Peter, because it is written that upon returning to eleven Apostles and other followers, these two men saying, "The Lord has really risen, and has appeared to Simon (Peter)." (Luke 24.33-35).

    But here is a little problem, these two returned to 11 Apostles as it written in verse 33, so if Peter (Simon) was together with Cleopas, these two should return to 10 and not to 11 Apostles, because Peter and Judas were absent.

    So, if he wasn't the Peter, who was the other man with Cleopas?
     
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    Adam Clarke commentary on verse 13, "Behold, two of them] This long and interesting account is not mentioned by Matthew nor John, and is only glanced at by Mark, Mr 16:12-13. One of these disciples was Cleopas, Lu 24:18, and the other is supposed by many learned men, both ancient and modern, to have been Luke himself. See the sketch of his life prefixed to these notes. Some of the ancient versions have called the other disciple Ammaus and Ammaon, reading the verse thus: Behold two of them, Ammaus and Cleopas, were going in that very day to a village about sixty furlongs distant from Jerusalem. But the Persian says positively that it was Luke who accompanied Cleopas. See the inscription to section 140 of this Gospel in the Polyglott. Dr. Lightfoot thinks it was Peter, and proves that Cleopas and Alpheus were one and the same person."
     
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