Featured Univeralism?

About Adam's disobedience. Christ's finished work to provide the gift of eternal life.
Compare 1 Corinthians 15:21-22.

 

"...meaning that Christ's atonement did away with Adam's transgression passing down upon all men and all men are now born innocent and eventually become guilty of their own accord...."

Babies In Hell 2

 

I have read quite a bit on Christian universalism and that is an argument that is used; also:

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

There is also quite a bit of discussion about the use of the Greek word, aión, and its derivatives, in the Bible.

 

I guess it just didn't register with you....

9 And I was alive apart from the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died; Ro 7

 

I was just pointing out something that Christian universalists point to in their theology, which may be of interest to those who are not familiar with Christian universalism.

God's elect that He chose before the foundation of the world.

 

For anyone interested in a take on 1 Corinthians 15:22 by a Christian universalist:

 

the last enemy is done away -- death; 1 Cor 15:26 YLT

How?

If anything that has ever died remains dead has death been, done away?

Could there be a death of death?


BTW I am just asking?

 

So, once men become guilty, if all of them had remained in their sin and hatred of God and never came to Jesus for Salvation, they Jesus was still obligated to come die, be buried and rise again for all the unborn infants?

Just asking? If you see what I'm trying to ask at all.

I know you still don't want to see a Creator that makes a baby and would send them to hell. Because to Worship a God that may do that (we don't know for sure) would be hard to do, wouldn't it?

 

The Death of Death in the Death of Christ (eBook)
BY JOHN OWEN
A TREATISE OF THE REDEMPTION AND RECONCILIATION
THAT IS IN THE BLOOD OF CHRIST, WITH THE MERIT THEREOF,
AND SATISFACTION WROUGHT THEREBY.

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IN EPUB, .MOBI,.PDF & HTML
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John Owen is not someone I have read after, but according to many posts I've read here on the BB, I am missing an enormous blessing.

This is a .pdf of his famous book and the table of contents, if any of it strikes your interests

"The Death of Death in the Death of Christ is a polemical work, designed to show, among other things, that the doctrine of universal redemption is unscriptural and destructive of the gospel. There are many, therefore, to whom it is not likely to be of interest. Those who see no need for doctrinal exactness and have no time for theological debates which show up divisions between so-called Evangelicals may well regret its reappearance.

"Some may find the very sound of Owen’s thesis so shocking that they will refuse to read his book at all; so passionate a thing is prejudice, and so proud are we of our theological shibboleths. But it is hoped that this reprint will find itself readers of a different spirit.

"There are signs today of a new upsurge of interest in the theology of the Bible: a new readiness to test traditions, to search the Scriptures and to think through the faith. It is to those who share this readiness that Owen’s treatise is offered, in the belief that it will help us in one of the most urgent tasks facing Evangelical Christendom today—the recovery of the gospel."

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Table of Contents

Introductory Essay by J. I. Packer

BOOK I

Chapter 1. In general of the end of the death of Christ, as it is in the Scripture proposed

Chapter 2. Of the nature of an end in general, and some distinctions about it

Chapter 3. Of the agent or chief author of the work of our redemption, and of the first thing distinctly ascribed to the person of the Father

Chapter 4. Of those things which in the work of redemption are peculiarly ascribed to the person of the Son

Chapter 5. The peculiar actions of the Holy Spirit in this business

Chapter 6. The means used by the fore-recounted agents in this work

Chapter 7. Containing reasons to prove the oblation and intercession of Christ to be one entire means respecting the accomplishment of the same proposed end, and to have the same personal object

Chapter 8. Objections against the former proposal answered



BOOK II

Chapter 9. Some previous considerations to a more particular inquiry after the proper end and effect of the death of Christ

Chapter 10. Containing a removal of some mistakes and false assignations of the end of the death of Christ

Chapter 11. More particularly of the immediate end of the death of Christ, with the several ways whereby it is designed

Chapter 12. Of the distinction of impetration and application -- The use and abuse thereof; with the opinion of the adversaries upon the whole matter in controversy unfolded; and the question on both sides stated

Chapter 13. Of application and impetration



BOOK III

Chapter 14. Arguments against the universality of redemption-The two first; from the nature of the new covenant, and the dispensation thereof

Chapter 15. Containing three other arguments

Chapter 16. Containing, two other arguments from the person Christ sustained in this business

Chapter 17. Of sanctification, and of the cause of faith, and the procurement thereof by the death of Christ

Chapter 18. Being a continuance of arguments from the nature and description of the thing in hand; and first, of redemption

Chapter 19. Of the nature of reconciliation, and the argument taken from thence

Chapter 20. Of the nature of the satisfaction of Christ, with arguments from thence

Chapter 21. A digression, containing the substance of an occasional conference concerning the satisfaction of Christ

Chapter 22. Being a second part of the former digression--Arguments to prove the satisfaction of Christ

Chapter 23. Of the merit of Christ, with arguments from thence

Chapter 24. The last general argument



BOOK IV

Chapter 1. Things previously to be considered, to the solution of objections

Chapter 2. An entrance to the answer unto particular arguments

Chapter 3. An unfolding of the remaining texts of Scripture produced for the confirmation of the first general argument for universal redemption

Chapter 4. Answer to the second general argument for the universality of redemption

Chapter 5. The last argument from Scripture answered

Chapter 6. An answer to the twentieth chapter of the book entitled, "The Universality of God's Free Grace," etc., being a collection of all the arguments used by the author throughout the whole book to prove the universality of redemption

 

God is just, He wouldn't do that.

@Van presents the very same dilemma for you hardshell Calvies that I did in that thread. What's your answer to his question?:

 

How'd you vote in this poll?

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I've decided to do the poll again.

 

There's a new poll now.