Babies In Hell? 3

Yes. Even David wrote:

Psalms 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; And in sin did my mother conceive me.

Now that refers to everyone's state at the time a body becomes a living soul, and not just the reprobate.

The elect's standing is as justified saints before the foundation of the world(Romans 9:11). In time, the Holy Spirit regenerates and makes spiritually alive God's elect so that their state is then the same as their standing.

 

Psalm 51:5

Ephesians 2:1


As Cs, we believe that God can change the hearts of children and bring about faith to glorify Himself ie it’s not about them praying a prayer, but upon avid implanting faith in their hearts to believe the Gospel

 

Romans 5: 12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

If this doesn't apply to a baby why did the baby die?... A baby needs a Savior just like I do so because without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sin... Just read David in post 2 that Ken brought out and that's how we all come into the world... Now is Heaven going to be full of babies?... Or full grown Gods people, that is Gods business and none of mine... All the elect of God?... That's also God's business and none of mine but there is evidence and when I look at Revelation 7: 9... I see it and go by what it says, and election is not a handful but a multitude... And this is just speculation on my part but how does a baby stand before the throne and praise God?... Brother Glen

Revelation 7: 9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

 

Someone made an interesting comment to me on the resurrection... He said when we are all raised in the resurrection we will be an ageless 33 years old... I scratched my head and said... Where did you get that?... He said its only logical!... Jesus was raised from the tomb when he was 33 years old, so it stands to reason we will be an eternal 33 also... I kinda rolled my eyes while shaking my head and said... Whatever?... Brother Glen

 

John the Baptist was saved from his mother's womb.

That tells us he was a sinner in need of a Savior.

He leaped in Elizabeth's womb when He heard about Jesus, which a Born Again human would do and not the lost.

The way I see it is, if God could get through to my soul that was lost, blind, and dead as a rock, could He not also Enable an unborn child with the ability to hear with Spiritually hearing ears?

Hear what?

Same thing I heard.

The Gospel.

Being a baby is not a way of SALVATION.

Being Born Again by the Holy Spirit in the New Birth, when given repentance and faith in the belief of the Gospel, of Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection, is the way God saves souls.

John the Baptist was obviously Elect.

Where does that put all other babies?

Well. John the Baptist needed a Savior to save his soul from sin.

Why else would he have needed to be saved? From what?

If all babies are sinners in need of being saved by the Savior, then it would be God's prerogative as to whether He Chose to give them an understanding of the Gospel, to give them the New Birth.

Jesus said, "you must be born again".

How would they hear the Gospel?

John the Baptist heard of Jesus' arrival and knew enough about all that to leap as a saved soul.

Could God have given him the opportunity to hear the Gospel, to save him?

Sure.

So, preach the Gospel to woman's stomachs.

The preaching of the Gospel is used as the instrumentality and means, which is witnessed to by the Holy Spirit, Who brings about the New Birth.

And remember, you must be born again, as John the Baptist was.

 

Yeah I thought of Jack Benny who was a perpetual 39!... Then he died... Brother Glen

 

All people are born, of the flesh, with the soul of the flesh being in the blood.

And we are told in the resurrection chapter of the word of God that; Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood [See above] cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption.

IMHO the soul (living being) of the flesh needs to be, "born from above," of the Spirit.

That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

 

"Hell bound"

What gate does one pass through into Hell? Hades? Death?

because of this, even as through one man the sin did enter into the world, and through the sin the death; and thus to all men the death did pass through, for that all did sin;

 

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.

With or without an immune system?

Did he need one at that time?

How long would it be before he would need a vaccine?