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God created all things, the universe and the earth in 6 days, about 6000 years – the Bible and real

Discussion in 'Creation vs. Evolution' started by SavedByTheLord, Sep 11, 2023.

  1. SavedByTheLord

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    God created all things, the universe and the earth in 6 days, about 6000 years – the Bible and real science prove this is true

    God created man by a direct act and not through evolution from lower life forms. This is clear from the following passages.

    26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. - Gen 1:26-27

    7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;22 And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. – Gen 2:7,21-23

    The age of the earth is easily determined from the Bible, which is the true word of God. In Genesis 1, it is clear that God created all things, including the earth, the universe, the sun, the moon, the stars, all life and of course Adam and Eve on the 6th day. To determine the age of the earth, extensive genealogies are given along with the age at which each father begat the named sun. Historical kings are mentioned in the book of Daniel and elsewhere in the Old Testament. The command to rebuild the temple and the 70-week prophecy in Daniel gives 70x7=490 yrs. The Biblical precept of a day is a year is found in Numbers where the Israelites were punished to wander 40 years in the desert, a year for each day since they spied out the land of the Canaanites and did not believe what God could do.

    Usher and Isaac Newton followed the same logic, and both determined the earth to have been created about 6000 years ago. There are others who have done the same thing. All the logic, all the real science and all the facts also confirm that the earth and everything in it is about 6000 years old.

    Light is created early on the first day and separated from darkness. Thus, there is directional light from the very beginning. This is even before the sun is created on the 4th day. Directional light plus a rotating earth gives night and day. Thus, the days below are very close to 24 hrs. That is shown by the 6x “the evening and the morning” are used. The ordinal count of days also proves that these are 24-hour days.

    5 … And the evening and the morning were the first day. 8 … And the evening and the morning were the second day. 13 And the evening and the morning were the third day. 19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day. 23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day. 31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. Gen 1:5,8,13,19,23,31

    God created all things in 6 days. He did it, knows how it was done and knows when it was done. So, God’s eyewitness testimony is 100% true. All supposed “science”, which disagrees, is therefore false. God spoke with His mouth 2x and wrote with His finger 2x the following. By the way Christ may have written the 10 commandants with His finger in the sand. He certainly used that to teach as it says “all taught of God” in John 6:45.

    1 And God spake all these words, saying, 11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. - Exo 20:1,11

    17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed. 18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God. - Exo 31:17-18

    And the tables were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God, graven upon the tables. - Exo 32:16

    And the Lord said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest. - Exo 34:1

    The Lord Jesus Christ, who created all things in 6 days about 6000 years ago, was there, did it and knows when it happened. The following 4 passages shows that Jesus Christ believed in 6-day recent creation. Many times throughout the Bible, creation, the fall, Cain and Abel, and the flood are spoken as real events.

    4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, 5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? - Matt 19:4-5

    6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. 7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; 8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. 9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. - Mark 10:6-9

    As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began: - Luke 1:70

    50 That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation; 51 From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this generation. - Luke11:50-51

    For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: - Rom 1:20

    A man names Henry Morris, a creation scientist, said that if you deny 6-day recent creation, you will also have to deny the worldwide flood in Noah’s day. The Atheistic Origin “Scientists” with there no God assumption will just not allow God, period. See the topic “Don’t be conned with the no God Assumption of Atheistic Origin Science”.

    Almost all the sedimentary layers with their fossils are the result of the worldwide flood during the time of Noah, which occurred about 4500 years ago. A real scientific study of those layers proves it. There are many other scientific proofs of recent creation.

    One last point is needed. The Bible gives a timeline for the time between creation and the creation of a new heaven and a new earth. It is 7000 years. The 1000 years reign of Christ is yet to come. It comes after the pre-trib rapture and the almost 7-year tribulation. The 6-day creation, which is 6 consecutive 24-hour days is also actually a prophecy and gives the timeline. Peter wrote:

    But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. – 2 Peter 3:8

    5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: - 2 Peter 3:5-6

    Now the word of God says:

    Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. – Amos 3:7

    So, God reveals things to His prophets who wrote it done. All the Bible is written as prophecy (see 2 Peter 1:22).

    So, God cannot rapture His church and bring tribulation unless He revealed it to His prophets who wrote it done. In fact, all the Bible is lit up with fulfilled prophecy of things that must be just before the rapture. The amazing thing is not even that all these things were prophesied to happen but to happen at exactly our time. You see any can say man will have increased knowledge in some indeterminate future time. But the exact timing is given by scripture written about 2000 to 3500 years ago. The exact timing is given by the 6000-year age of the earth and the timeline given by the Bible. This is just another great proof that the Bible is the very true word of God Almighty. God Himself gave that as a proof in the Chapters Isa 41-47.

    22 Let them bring them forth, and shew us what shall happen: let them shew the former things, what they be, that we may consider them, and know the latter end of them; or declare us things for to come.23 Shew the things that are to come hereafter, that we may know that ye are gods: yea, do good, or do evil, that we may be dismayed, and behold it together.24 Behold, ye are of nothing, and your work of nought: an abomination is he that chooseth you. – Isa 41:22-24

    Since the word of God has been proven to be absolutely true, then unless you believe the gospel of Christ you will go to everlasting torment in the lake of fire. See “Where will you spend eternity” to be saved forever.

    All scripture passages and references are from the King James Bible, the word of God in English.
     
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    Johannes Kepler placed the creation date at 4,977 B.C. Which, using his date, means that this is year 7000 of the existence of the earth.

    Now, I have no idea if Kepler was correct. What I do know is that I look forward to the second coming of Christ when this present heavens and earth will be replaced with the new heavens and earth wherein dwells righteousness.

    2 Peter 3:10-13 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
     
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    amen
     
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    You get a WINNER from me!

    Thank you, for the testimony
    and witness in belief of our CREATOR & MAKER!

    Here are 60 audios from Henry Morris.
    Worth your time. Listen to them 5 times each!!

    The best thing on Bible chronology I've seen, here.

    Easy read and packed with the perfect God-given Bible timeline.

    The Wonders of Bible Chronology by Philip Mauro

    Although, I differ with the stuff I put in bold, from the post, but again that's just me.
     
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    Thanks so much for the encouragement.
    Henry Morris was both good at creation science and also mighty in the word of God. I have read much of his writings. I probably use much of his insights .
     
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    Amen

    One of the great passages of, The Word of God.
     
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    That is an interpertation. Without this specific interpertation, the word of God on this creation, the whole universe, is still literally true.

    We are still seeing our universe with an actual distant past.
     
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    What about the gap theory?
     
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    Well the gap theory has several problems. This is a big problem for it. Since God made the earth in the very 6 days of evolution there is no place for the gap.

    1 And God spake all these words, saying, 11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. - Exo 20:1,11

    17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed. 18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God. - Exo 31:17-18
     
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    And then what then? Br.37?

    I can't help but go about wondering and wondering to myself whether or not you're saying one thing, or the other thing.

    But, I know that you are saying something.

    Could it be a little touch of enigmatic cryptic 37 slang activity?)

    If so, could this mean that you are "seeing our universe", as being Created far, far, far away in the "actual distant past", and as being millions and millions and billions of years old, the way you see it?

     
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    Currently the most distant galaxies are seen and measured to be billions of years in the past. Even though our Biblical account can be understood to have been created some mere 6000 years ago Earth wise.

    Younger Universe - Says some creation science.
     
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    First, the scripture is quite clear that the earth, the universe, and everything else was created in 6 days about 6000 years ago. So since the word of God could not be in error, the scientists today unfortunately have erred with a false assumption.

    Second, there are many "clocks" which limit the age of the earth, the rock layers, the fossils, and just about everything in creation to thousands of years.

    As to the finite speed of light, that actually refutes the Big Bang theory and this is seen in the very many inconsistencies with the theory for the explanation of the redshift, the expansion of the universe and of course then the Big Bang itself. These are now being abandoned by non creationists in ever increasing numbers.

    There have been several creationists models which explain the light problem for recent creation and the redshift .
    While these new creationists models may be true, I believe that the explanation is much more easy to see just by looking at Genesis 1:14-16.

    14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
    15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
    16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. - Genesis 1:14-16.

    The stars can also be used to tell seasons as to planting and harvesting. But with the finite speed of light, starts like Rigel would not have shown in the sky for over 800 years, Sirius in 8, Betelgeuse in over 700, Polaris in over 300. Those that were alive in those early years since creation would have seen stars just popping into the sky out of nothing without any warning from God. That would have been confusing and not very useful. Also "the heavens declare the glory of God" (Psalm 19:1) and that glory extends to all the stars and galaxies in the universe which would have never been seen yet if the the universe is only about 6000 years old. Therefore, I believe that God made the light from all stars, galaxies, etc to reach the earth at the very moment that they were made. Easy for the Almighty to do.
     
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    God created time plural, Hebrews 1:2, ". . . he made the worlds; . . ." So it is no big deal if He created billions of galaxies with real billions of years of past before the six days in those six days.
     
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    It does say worldSs so that shows advanced scientific knowledge in the Bible.
    God certainly could have done that, but it is scripture that argues against that.

    God created man by a direct act and not through evolution from lower life forms. This is clear from the following passages.

    26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. - Gen 1:26-27

    7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;22 And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. – Gen 2:7,21-23

    The age of the earth is easily determined from the Bible, which is the true word of God. In Genesis 1, it is clear that God created all things, including the earth, the universe, the sun, the moon, the stars, all life and of course Adam and Eve on the 6th day. To determine the age of the earth, extensive genealogies are given along with the age at which each father begat the named sun. Historical kings are mentioned in the book of Daniel and elsewhere in the Old Testament. The command to rebuild the temple and the 70-week prophecy in Daniel gives 70x7=490 yrs. The Biblical precept of a day is a year is found in Numbers where the Israelites were punished to wander 40 years in the desert, a year for each day since they spied out the land of the Canaanites and did not believe what God could do.

    Usher and Isaac Newton followed the same logic, and both determined the earth to have been created about 6000 years ago. There are others who have done the same thing. All the logic, all the real science and all the facts also confirm that the earth and everything in it is about 6000 years old.

    Light is created early on the first day and separated from darkness. Thus, there is directional light from the very beginning. This is even before the sun is created on the 4th day. Directional light plus a rotating earth gives night and day. Thus, the days below are very close to 24 hrs. That is shown by the 6x “the evening and the morning” are used. The ordinal count of days also proves that these are 24-hour days.

    5 … And the evening and the morning were the first day. 8 … And the evening and the morning were the second day. 13 And the evening and the morning were the third day. 19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day. 23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day. 31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. Gen 1:5,8,13,19,23,31

    God created all things in 6 days. He did it, knows how it was done and knows when it was done. So, God’s eyewitness testimony is 100% true. All supposed “science”, which disagrees, is therefore false. God spoke with His mouth 2x and wrote with His finger 2x the following. By the way Christ may have written the 10 commandants with His finger in the sand. He certainly used that to teach as it says “all taught of God” in John 6:45.

    1 And God spake all these words, saying, 11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. - Exo 20:1,11

    17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed. 18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God. - Exo 31:17-18

    And the tables were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God, graven upon the tables. - Exo 32:16

    And the Lord said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest. - Exo 34:1

    The Lord Jesus Christ, who created all things in 6 days about 6000 years ago, was there, did it and knows when it happened. The following 4 passages shows that Jesus Christ believed in 6-day recent creation. Many times throughout the Bible, creation, the fall, Cain and Abel, and the flood are spoken as real events.

    4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, 5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? - Matt 19:4-5

    6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. 7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; 8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. 9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. - Mark 10:6-9

    As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began: - Luke 1:70

    50 That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation; 51 From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this generation. - Luke11:50-51

    For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: - Rom 1:20
     
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    I have here in my study 28 commentaries on Genesis, most of which are commentaries on the Hebrew text—and some of them are very extensive multi-volume works. None of these commentaries find anything in the Scriptures that teach that the earth was created in six days or about 6,000 years ago. These concepts are a consequence of interpreting the Bible without a basic understanding of hermeneutics.
     
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    And I can say the exact opposite. There is plenty of scholarship that says otherwise. I have a lot of it on my shelf.
     
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    Aah the infamous gap theory. Has as much credibility as does preterism. Both are the weakest of all theologies.
     
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    What is actually true, the galaxies which have an actual existence before the actual six days of Genesis 1:3-31. Per Hebrews 1:2, . . . Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; . . ."
     
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