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More thoughts remember as I have stated, I know, no Greek, nor Hebrew and not to sharp with my native language, English. N MS style.

Before the cross
From LXX Hab 2:4 δίκαιος ἐκ πίστεώς μου ζήσεται

After the cross From Romans 1:17, Galatians 3:11, Hebrews 10:38
δίκαιος ἐκ πίστεως ζήσεται
δίκαιος ἐκ πίστεως ζήσεται·
δίκαιός ἐκ πίστεως ζήσεται

Why is after the cross - μου - is not quoted?
Is it because of the following?

And before the coming of the faith, under law we were being kept, shut up to the faith about to be revealed, so that the law became our child-conductor -- to Christ, that by faith we may be declared righteous, and the faith having come, no more under a child-conductor are we,

Was the faith of Christ, Acts 7:52 the Just One, the fulfillment of Hab 2:4

Is it through the faith of Christ, we are made just and by which we will [future BTW] shall live?

 

I find myself agreeing with you a lot.

 

Emoticons?

Fundamentally, the idea of saying you must believe in "X, Y, and Z" to be saved is unstudied legalistic nonsense. God must credit your faith, as He knows your heart, and your commitment to follow God and your love of God are essential. If we do not believe in God, or believe God rewards those who seek Him, we certainly do not fit scripture's stated requirements. Further, if we do not believe Jesus performed His miracles by the power of God, that seems to fall short of God's required beliefs established after the resurrection. In summary, we must believe in God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. ​

 

Your thoughts to the following. My note/thought in [ ].
YLT Romans 5:19 for as through the disobedience of the one man, the many were constituted sinners: so also through the obedience of the one, ['Father, to Thy hands I commit my spirit;'/ having become obedient unto death -- death even of a cross] shall the many be constituted righteous. [just/justified]

Now I contend that obedience, of one, is the. obedience of faith, a phrase found twice in the NT and that faith being the faith of Christ and was the faith that came spoken of in Gal 3:23-25, the faith of Christ. And here is why I contend that to be so. The obedience .....................

Hebrews 5:7,8 YLT who in the days of his flesh both prayers and supplications unto Him who was able to save him from [out of] death -- with strong crying and tears -- having offered up, and having been heard in respect to that which he feared, through being a Son, did learn by the things which he suffered -- the obedience, If that is not the obedience of faith then please tell me what is being described here. It was through the faith of Christ that he was raised from the dead and given glory through which the Holy Spirit came to be to indwell. See John 7:39 and this he said of the Spirit, which those believing in him were about to receive; for not yet was the Holy Spirit, because Jesus was not yet glorified. John 17:5 'And now, glorify me, Thou Father, with Thyself, with the glory that I had before the world was, with Thee; 1 Peter 1:21 who through him [Jesus] do believe in God, who did raise out of the dead, and glory to him did give, so that your faith and hope may be in God.

I believe it is the faith of Christ that is imputed not anything we think or of ourselves believe. I believe God the Father through the Son of God gives to the ones called the Spirit of Truth unto belief.

Now Consider the following verse in that context.
having known also that a man is not declared righteous by works of law, if not through the faith of Jesus Christ, also we in Christ Jesus [By the gift of the Spirit of Truth] did believe, that we might be declared righteous [Just] by the faith of Christ, and not by works of law, wherefore declared righteous by works of law shall be no flesh.' Gal 2:16 YLT with my notes

It also applies perfectly with all your verses quoted in thread 145

 

Consider

Having been declared righteous [justified], then, by [out] [of] faith, [obedience unto death, even the death of the cross] we have peace toward God through our Lord Jesus Christ,

 

My thoughts make a little more sense if this can also make sense.

Simeon did declare how at first God did look after to take out of the nations a people for His name, Acts 15:14
and didst make us to our God kings and priests, and we shall reign upon the earth.' Rev 5:10
After these things I will turn back, and I will build again the tabernacle of David, that is fallen down, and its ruins I will build again, and will set it upright -- Acts 15:16
Happy and holy is he who is having part in the first rising again; over these the second death hath not authority, but they shall be priests of God and of the Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. Rev 20:6
that the residue of men may seek after the Lord, and all the nations, upon whom My name hath been called, saith the Lord, who is doing all these things. Acts 15:17

There is a purpose to what God is doing and it is relative to to the darkness of this age. When did it start, when does it end?

 

Another nothing burger. Look at what I posted again. Irony
Fundamentally, the idea of saying you must believe in "X, Y, and Z" to be saved is unstudied legalistic nonsense. God must credit your faith, as He knows your heart, and your commitment to follow God and your love of God are essential. If we do not believe in God, or believe God rewards those who seek Him, we certainly do not fit scripture's stated requirements. Further, if we do not believe Jesus performed His miracles by the power of God, that seems to fall short of God's required beliefs established after the resurrection. In summary, we must believe in God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.

Did the OT saints believe in the mystery of Christ's resurrection in order to obtain approval by faith? Nope. See the OP

 

Has "the gospel" been defined in this OP. Could a person be saved without knowing the gospel as presented by Paul? The OT saints obtained approval before Christ sacrificed His life as the Lamb of God.

 

The fact that two passages (Acts 13; 1 Cor. 15) explicitly tell us the 4 elements that were in Paul's gospel were the same 4 events that are testified to in all 4 Gospels shows that those 4 elements in all 4 Gospels were in fact part of the gospel that Paul preached.

Furthermore, not only did Paul proclaim the gospel with those 4 elements, but he also revealed plainly that all the apostles preached the gospel exactly the same way as he did:

1 Corinthians 15:11 Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed.

In this verse that comes after 1 Cor. 15:3-8 and directly refers back to 1 Cor. 15:3-8, Paul teaches us that all the apostolic company preached the gospel with the same 4 elements that he delineates in 1 Cor. 15:3-8.

There is no biblical basis to hold that the gospel that any of the other apostles preached or that Paul preached elsewhere other than in Antioch of Pisidia (Acts 13) or in Corinth (1 Cor. 15) did not include testimony to the crucifixion, burial, resurrection, and appearances of Christ.

 

Sorry that you did not get my point, your OP was false.

 

This is utter nonsense and shows your desperation in supporting your view. Acts 13 explicitly says that he was buried when it says, "They took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre" (Acts 13:29). It is ludicrous that you claim that burial is not in Acts simply because the word "burial," etc. does not show up concerning Christ.