Featured Time Travel Theology

The time travel view of justification by the blood of Christ is without merit. "mad." The view is that people who gained approval through faith under the Old Covenant, were fully justified by the "promised" blood of Christ. Their faith "looked forward" to Christ. This view is as mad as a mad hatter. In order for the time travel doctrine advocates to force their man-made doctrines into scripture they must resort to redefining words (i.e. draw always means compel rather than attract by lovingkindness.) They nullify scripture, Matthew 23:13 does not really say that men who were entering the kingdom were blocked. No that cannot be true because it demonstrates their mistaken doctrine is bogus. But the most egregious misuse of scripture is to ignore the given sequence, and claim the opposite sequence occurred. They put the cart before the horse again and again. How? By the use of time travel. Folks can be washed by the blood of Christ before Christ died. Mad and as ludicrous as this view is, they put it forth again and again, as if repeating an obvious falsehood somehow makes it less of a falsehood. I kid you not.

Abraham had as James would say, "live faith" rather than dead faith. From his faith flowed works, such as offering up Isaac.

Now the bone of contention, if we sidestep all the person insults and misrepresentations of the views of others, is whether we should use the term "justified" when OT saints gain approval through "live faith." Or, the alternate view, should we reserve the term "justified" to only refer to those washed by the actual blood of Christ. This alternate view is the one I advocate. I believe where we see translations use the term justified for OT Saints, that the translation should read "acted righteously." Thus we do not use the term "justified" to mean two very different things, which creates confusion.

 

Job 32:2
But the anger of Elihu the son of Barachel the Buzite, of the family of Ram, burned against Job; his anger burned because he justified himself before God.

According to KenH, "declared himself righteous" before God redefines the intended meaning of the word. Does anyone belief we can actually justify ourselves before God. Good grief.

The only time anyone is actually "justified" before God is when they are washed with His blood, i.e. they undergo the washing of regeneration within Christ. That is why the OT saints were kept in Abraham's bosom, rather than going to heaven. They had not yet been justified, made perfect by the blood of Christ. To claim otherwise is to engage in time-travel theology, asserting they were washed in His blood before His blood was shed.

 

Can you believe this "expert" indicates Elijah went to the abode of God, and Jesus was wrong when He said no one had ascended to heaven in John 3:13? Once again, an ambiguous term, heaven, which has three meanings, is used to present falsehood.

To repeat, No OT Saint, including Elijah, ascended to heaven, meaning the abode of God. Elijah ascended to heaven meaning the earth's atmosphere before He was taken to Abraham's bosom.

The only time anyone is actually "justified" before God is when they are washed with His blood, i.e. they undergo the washing of regeneration within Christ. That is why the OT saints were kept in Abraham's bosom, rather than going to heaven. They had not yet been justified, made perfect by the blood of Christ. To claim otherwise is to engage in time-travel theology, asserting they were washed in His blood before His blood was shed.

 

In post 7, KenH suggested that "holding cell" theology, referring apparently to Abraham's bosom, requires altering the meaning of words. Not sure if KenH is denying "heaven" refers to (1) earth's atmosphere, (2) space where the sun and moon and stars are located, and (3) the abode of God. Every time you see "heavens" ask yourselves, which of the three are in view?

No one ascended to the third heaven, the abode of God before Christ died. This is basic Christianity 101.

Time travel theology is fiction.

 

Sir, your claims are unbiblical.
1) Your translation choice of Revelation 13:8 is inconsistent with Revelation 17:8.
2) God is reconciling the world (fallen humanity) one sinner at a time.
3) Jesus is the Lamb of God, and He sacrificed His life as a ransom for all humanity.
4) No one said "time" is a problem with God, time is a problem for the false teaching of time-travel theology.
5) Why did the OT saints have to wait in Abraham's bosom, rather than enter heaven immediately as the thief on the cross did on the day of Christ's crucifixion.

 

Case made.

Sir, your claims are unbiblical.
1) Your translation choice of Revelation 13:8 is inconsistent with Revelation 17:8.
2) God is reconciling the world (fallen humanity) one sinner at a time.
3) Jesus is the Lamb of God, and He sacrificed His life as a ransom for all humanity.
4) No one said "time" is a problem with God, time is a problem for the false teaching of time-travel theology.
5) Why did the OT saints have to wait in Abraham's bosom, rather than enter heaven immediately as the thief on the cross did on the day of Christ's crucifixion.​

 

Yes, both verses if translated consistently, names not written since the foundation of the world, are not inconsistent.

The thief was in heaven the day Christ died, not when Christ left the tomb bodily.

Time-travel theology simply makes God's word to no effect.

 

Yes, the OT Saints were NOT washed with the blood of Jesus BEFORE Jesus shed His blood on the cross. To claim they were washed before Christ died is "Time - Travel Theology." The OT saints are now in Heaven, thus they were washed with His blood after He shed His blood. See Hebrews 11:39-40.

 

Scoffers may say that standing firm for truth is a (1) childish pejorative or (2) straining at gnats, but these fallacious arguments are without merit.
God's word means what it says.
(1) Why did the OT saints not go immediately to heaven before Christ died?
2) Why did the OT saints have to wait to be made perfect?
3) Time - Travel Theology is false theology.