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The Role of Impersonal Natural Law in the Resurrection of Jesus Christ????

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Alan Gross, Nov 17, 2023.

  1. Alan Gross

    Alan Gross Well-Known Member

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    I did that and it was a fitfully miserable experience.

    IMHO, I arrived at an extraordinary issue.

    Is "the Role of Satan in the Crucifixion", "Satan murdered Jesus", and other grandstanding exaltations of Satan, related to crediting Satan in some ways with God's Eternal Plan of Salvation, through the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ?

    After all, you don't have a Savior that rose again, if He wasn't first crucified.

    Stick with me for a second.

    The following account is a little shorter than other comments I've seen.

    "The mechanism of atonement requires that Jesus' death be unjust - so that justice can be satisfied in the resurrection as the reversal and reparation of all that sin has destroyed and the fulfillment of God's covenant promises" (Acts 12:32).

    "The mechanism of atonement requires that Jesus' death be unjust -(another version included) as He was an Innocent Victim murdered by Satan, so that justice can be satisfied in the resurrection as the reversal and reparation of all that sin has destroyed and the fulfillment of God's covenant promises" (Acts 13:32(?).

    1.) First, we are to comes to grips with what this impersonal "mechanism" is that accomplished the Atonement.

    2.) The sin-cursed state of fallen men and women is not included.

    3.) Jesus Christ being nailed to the cross, by the guilt of my sins imputed to Him, is not mentioned.

    4.) The principal determining factor becomes Satan murdering Jesus, as an Innocent Victim.

    5.) As the story goes, Satan is presented as instrumental in "causing" the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead.

    6.) There is another unexplained "mechanism", in between Satan murdering an Innocent Victim, that resulted in the resurrection of Jesus, which Satan is given credit for, which is something called, "a reversal" and "reparation" of all that sin has destroyed.

    7.) So, this self-perpetuating "mechanism", called a "reversal", is where "justice is satisfied". Both these "mechanisms" seem to carry out their assigned duties, impersonally, as if operating as Laws, similar to the Law of Gravity causing things to fall down.

    8.) All Satan had to do to carry of the Atonement is to murder Jesus, as an Innocent Victim, and by the operation of Natural Law, "justice" is so harshly afflicted that it goes into an automatic summersault, as it partakes in its presumed major flip "mechanism", or "reversal", which results in Jesus being resurrected from the dead, just like that, for that reason.

    ...Or, Jesus being "vomited" out, as we've so frequently seen.

    9.) Satan gets all the credit for the resurrection of Jesus in this way.

    10.) God being offended by sin, or God's Justice being satisfied by Jesus having Lived a Perfect Life, and made an offering for sin, is able to be left out.

    The message to the lost, then, doesn't have to include the mention of them being sinners, or talk about "blood", etc.

    Everything about the Gospel message can be skipped.

    It is just a message like, "don't be mean like Satan who kills Innocent people, just look at the resurrection, and decide whether you want to believe something like that happened, and if you do you can go to Heaven.

    Come forward. Your friends will wait for you".
     
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    1 John 3:8, ". . . He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. . . ."

    John 8:44, ". . . the devil, . . . . He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. . . ."

    Genesis 3:4, ". . . And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: . . . "
     
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