Featured Why Don't Modern Denominations Understand The Rapture

The reason is because the church and it's associated doctrines are "mysteries" and must be revealed to prepared hearts by the indwelling Spirit, who alone can teach us his words. Generally speaking, teachers who cannot understand and discern the mystery of the church of Jesus Christ are more than likely to be off center on all the major doctrines of the faith for that simple reason, lack of spiritual discernment. That is what I notice on these boards as I interact with denominational faith groups.

This age we live in is clearly laid out in the parables of Jesus during the last weeks of his earthly ministry and in his mysteries of the kingdom of heaven parables, numbering 12 total in the gospels, identified as the "mysteries of the kingdom of heaven" (12 being the number of God's kingdom in the scriptures) and Paul the apostle was chosen to reveal the mysteries of the faith to the believers in this age. If you are one of those people who does not get it, and even argue against it, you should do an examination of your heart.

Seven of these parables are in Matthew 13 where Jesus lays out this whole age in a format of sowing and reaping, from sowing the seed to the reaping the harvest and dealing with the tares that have interfered with the growth of the wheat.

One of the mysteries of this age is called the "mystery of iniquity." Paul said it was already at work when he wrote his books.

2 Thessalonians 2:7
For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
For those who cannot understand the KJV, the word "let" means hinder, and that which hinders full iniquity is the Spirit, (ye are the light of the world, Jesus said) who resides in believers, the body of Christ, the church of Jesus Christ.
19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

The revelation of the church of Jesus Christ is addressed to the churches and the mystery of God is complete when he returns with the church to reign over lords and kings as the Lord of lords and King of kings, and finally full knowledge is achieved by the church.

It is not okay to preach bad doctrines concerning end time events to promote the established doctrines of some favored denomination.

1 Cor 4:1 Let a man so account of us (the apostles and prophets), as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God.
2 Moreover it is required in stewards, that a man be found faithful.
3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self.
4 For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord.
5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, (the completion of the mytery of God Re 10:7), and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.

I would like to talk about this awhile and convince the doubters of the truth of the word of God concerning the gathering of his main harvest, the church, often referred to as the rapture.......

 

There is much disagreement on when and how a man is saved from his sin, as well as many other church age subjects between faith groups, yet it does not hinder discussion. The church is charged to preach the truth, not to shrink from it because there is disagreement. How does that help anyone and glorify the word of the Lord?

Do what you must.

 

A modern view is not a problem if it is a biblical view. The view I hold can be supported by the words of the scriptures in their context and by rightly dividing. It is reasonable and logical. You are a man who does not believe what you read and I am talking about you and whatever group you associate with and represent.

 

Reformed groups are not biblical. By your own identification you believe the unbiblical doctrines of the Roman Catholics was at one time correct. They never held to the truth. Reformed fathers made up doctrines and have corrupted all of Christendom until now we are living in the perilous times that identify the last days of the church. Reformed doctrines proponents carry more blame for the slide than anyone else, IMO.

 

What does any of that have to do with the subject? The question you need to ask is, "what saith the scriptures." Hang what Hal Lindsay and schofield says. What they say will not be an excuse for you at the judgement.

 

Before it said that, it said this:

13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

There is no excuse for this ignorance. Only those who are in Jesus, that is in his body, the church, are asleep. Those who die without Christ are simply dead. At least this is true in the KJV. The hope is a resurrection and glorification and being taken to the Father's house like has been promised.

John 14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

That is hope. What you guys pervert the hope is the great tribulation.

1 Th 1:1 Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ:

1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

2:19 For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Are not even ye in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming?

3:12 And the Lord make you to increase and abound in love one toward another, and toward all men, even as we do toward you: 13 To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.

Paul was addressing the church and assuring us of his coming to deliver us from the wrath to come. He was not addressing you if you are an unbeliever of his promises. If you are faithful to the teaching of some man or organization that claims they are speaking for God then these promises are not for you.

The day of the Lord is the wrath to come, and it has not come yet but will soon.


Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.