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  1. Piper

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    In your opinion, what is the most difficult to interpret or understand in the Bible?
    As a young Christion, I really struggled with Hebrews 6:1-6, on whether someone could lose their salvation.

    In my middle years, Romans 9 and whether it taught individual election.

    In my last few years, I have wrestled with and fought with 1 John 2:2.
    He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.

    After reading John Owen, I have come to a place where I agree with his view. But I still wrestle with it.

    Anyway, what is yours?
     
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    John 11:35 is difficult for me to fully appreciate (the interpretation isn't difficult).
     
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    I can see that.

    I have heard probably 6 sermons on that passage, and most of them interpret it differently.
     
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    I received Christ at 14 in the summer of 1962. I was lead to Christ at Faith Baptist Church of Canoga Park. Knowing for sure was to me, the neatest thing to know.

    As a new Christian my biggest fear was misinterperting the Bible.

    My first study Bible was The Scofield Reference Bible the 1917 edition.

    As a simple rule. I would believe what I thought I understood.
     
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    Fortunately we are not judged for our misinterpretations.

    Rob
     
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    Job.
     
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    This is off-topic, but do we really know this to be true? I ask this specifically thinking of pastors who are held responsible for the sheep.
    I am not so sure your statement is entirely true, though I recognize the sentiment you are trying to convey.
     
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    Your path is similar to mine as all three of those verses were verses I had to work through.
    I am not sure what verse jumps out as difficult. Certainly it takes a lot of work to follow Paul's arguments, which is why Peter comments on Paul's writings.
    Probably Revelation is hardest because John writes in a genre that is hard to understand with all his symbolism and thus there are many ideas as to what John meant.
     
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    I Corinthians 15:29
     
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    What is the this? Explain.
     
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    Was then. But the now?
    Some of the answers are easy. But all have answers.
     
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    Go back to post #8 and see the quote of what deacon wrote. Then note that "this" is what I was pointing at.
     
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    You explaained not a thing. What was the "This" that was off topic and why?
     
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    For me as a new Christian, age 14, the first MOST difficult passage in the Bible was Genesis chapter 1. Genesis 1:16.
     
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    I knew evolution was a lie even as a nonbeliever
     
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    Two things. Biology is not the same as geology or astronomy. Also change over time is a fact.
     
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    Not as the evolutionary framework promulgates

    btw

    the geologic column etc does not exist

    even at the Grand Canyon
     
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    29 ¶ Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?

    That one I know the answer to. Paul was making a point that heathen religions also baptized, and some of them baptized for the dead. Now if those heathens believe in a resurrection, then why don’t we?

    He was not approving nor advocating baptizing for the dead; he was saying that those people did that because they believed in a resurrection. It was an example, reinforcing the Christian truth of resurrection, not baptism for the dead.
     
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