Featured What the sin nature is not.

you made a little comment, and post 2 verses from the Bible? You have not explained what you are on about? Are you referring to Romans 5:12, and the "reformed" position?

 

The sin of Adam and Eve is disobedience to the Lord, Who Commanded them what they could and could not do. There is not a single person who is born, who is not guilty of this, right from the time they know "good from evil".

 

who teaches that we are?

 

Yes, spot on! We (who were made and born sinners) are not guilty of Adam's sin.

Because we were made sinners, we have suffered at least part of the consequence of Adam's sin. Just like if a murder kills us, we are not guilty of the murder's sin, but we have suffered at least part of his sin's consequence.

Did sin enter humanity because of Eve being deceived? Nope, for by the sin of one (Adam) sin entered the world.

God did not cause Adam to sin, Adam chose to sin. Thus we were not "predestined" to made sinners before Adam sinned, but God did anticipate the "Fall" because Logos was chosen to be the "Lamb of God" before the fall.

God provided the opportunity for Adam to sin, providing the proximity of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, and allowing Satan to use Eve to tempt Adam. Dr. Pink uses the phrase, God arranged for Adam to sin.

So the "Fall" (the consequence of Adam's sin God chose to impose on all of humanity) resulted in our "sin nature." First of course, is our innate knowledge of good and evil, we at least from an early age, are able to consider doing what others might not want. "Me first" comes naturally to all of us.

But is our sin nature more than just desiring fleshly desires, comfort and security? Yes, we are predisposed to sin. Paul had thought he was a pretty fine fellow until his covetousness was brought to his attention. I do not need a "bigger boat" for comfort or security, but I sure would like one!

 

The scriptures do not teach that we inherit a sin nature by our births. There is no such thing as a sin nature. Men before the cross can by nature please God.

Ro 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

Man is conceived as a soul and a tabernacle is fashioned for him through the flesh over a time. The soul comes from God by a natural law he has set in motion and the tabernacle for the soul, the body, comes from the woman, the weaker vessel. Sin takes place when the soul consciously gives in to the prompting of the flesh to do evil. Sin then is an action of the body contrary to the will of God. Paul said in Ro 7. "in me, that is in my flesh, dwelleth no good thing." He said he desired to do good but evil was present with him. He was referring to his two parts, the soul which by conscience desired to do good but the flesh was weak and he did not have the power to resist it's promptings. The answer is later in chapter 8 given that the Spirit of God would indwell the body when he believed and give it power to resist.

Did anyone notice that it was Eve who in Genesis took the forbidden fruit to Adam to eat. Adam could have and should have said no. History would have unfolded much differently if he had. He could have given Adam a new wife because he carried the seed and sin would not have been passed on. Those who understand the Church of Jesus Christ knows this is what God did. The Church of Jesus Christ, him being the second man and the last Adam, has a bride taken from his body and God has predestined it to be glorified when he has finished forming it, which he hasn't yet. When he does he will take both to Paradise where he, God the Father, resides just like he did in Genesis and we will ever be with the Lord.

The man and his wife are one according to Ge 2:24 & 1 Cor 7. God has written his revelation of his ways in a circle. All events are absolutely true as reported but always one is a prophetical type of the other. They happen over and over again. This typology is the way of God and the means to affirm ones doctrine.

Jesus Christ, the last Adam, was conceived by the Holy Spirit of God in the woman and he dwelt in the body of Jesus, along with his soul, from birth and gave him the power to live a sinless life in the flesh though he was tempted in all points like as we are.

James gives us the process of sin.

James 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

Jesus said "the spirit (soul) is willing but the flesh is weak.

 

it is exactly this, which causes us to sin and rebel against God!

 

Men do not have a sin nature but they are natural men. This is the reason men must be born again spiritually. It is actually simple, reasonable, and logical. The scripture says sin was introduced into the world by one man and death by sin. God intended for men to have dominion over the earth.

Ps 115:16 The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD’S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men.

So Paul in Romans 5, which was written 28 years after the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ, looked back over history before Jesus and divided it into two parts. Before Moses and his law and after Moses and his law and he observed that all died physical deaths. Romans 5:12 is most important in this chapter because he makes this point in order to prove that sin reigned supreme during those days before Jesus came into the world to deal with sin. Ro 5:12 says this;

Ro 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Sin and death are in this verse as the problem and it came through one man and impacted his entire family, every one. This is the point. Many, meaning all of them sinned and died. It is still true of the family today.

However, Jesus came and was not of this family of Adam. He was a new man. He was in the human family, meaning he received his flesh through the woman, thus receiving all that any man ever received from man, a physical human body,. but God, not Adam, was his Father. He was the only man ever to be begotten of God through a woman. In this sense he is the only begotten son of God. He is the federal head of a new family but not according to the flesh. He had no children during his life time so how can he be the head of a new family and how can God give dominion over the earth to him? It is through God's gift of his Spirit who is his Life. It is a new birth into the family of Jesus Christ by faith, a birth like no man has ever experienced until Jesus Christ. As a man and as a member of the human family he was the first man to experience the new birth, that is if words means anything. When God says in Col 1:18 that he is the first begotten son of God from the dead, he actually and really means that. What does it mean to have a spiritual birth? It means that the Spirit of Christ and of God enters into a body that does not have the Spirit in it as a member of that person and quickens it. The bodies of Adam, after his fall, and all the bodies of every member of his family from then til now are dead in the sense they do not have the Spirit of God in them. They are all once born and the soul is in them but God is not. They will die. It is 100% sure to happen.

Jesus Christ is the first member of this family of God and is the head of it. All who receive the Spirit receive the new or second birth. All of Adams race may receive the Spirit by repentance of their sins, that which causes death, and by faith receive the Spirit of Christ, thus receiving the very exact standing as son of God as Jesus Christ, even to the point of being "joint heirs" with him when the inheritance becomes a reality. Jesus Christ is the "householder" we read about in the parables. He is the husbandman. He and his wife are one. The picture is painted throughout the Bible starting with Adam and Eve. Two, a male and a female, marry and become one flesh. The NT gospel parables anticipates a marriage at supper time. It was in his mind that the guests who came at his invitation would also be the bride.

When the family is complete and the body become the wife and she has made herself ready she will be taken and all others who are left may receive the Spirit but on different conditions and they will not be children of God. They will of necessity receive the gospel of the kingdom by faith. This is the means to their entrance into it just like it was in the days of the earthly ministry of Jesus Christ. Men are prepared by Jesus Christ and his work for the kingdom of God on the earth.

The bride of Christ will reign with him because she is one with him. When the church is complete then the judgement at the judgement seat in heaven is set to determine the rewards or lack thereof for her work, called in the scriptures "the day of the Lord Jesus' and it will take place in heaven while the earth is being judged in awful tribulation called the "day of the Lord." All rebels alive on the earth will be destroyed at this time and Christ will return to inaugurate his kingdom, that was given him by his Father, over the few redeemed who are left alive on that day when he comes to the earth.

But back to the absolute sovereignty of sin in the world. Sin rules unto death. We have been told this judgement is coming since 1000 years before Christ. Now it is super near at hand.

13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
17 For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)

18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
19 For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

Jesus Christ has dealt with sin, taking the sting out of it by his resurrection from the dead. He will finally put it away in it's entirety by putting away all sinners, leaving only the redeemed.

Praise our Lord Jesus Christ!

 

the human "nature" is prone to sin the moment we know "right from wrong". this is in our dna, which is the direct result of the fall of the human race in Adam.

Jesus Christ was "TESTED", as the Greek world also means, but, as the God-Man, could not have fallen, as this would be impossible. Jesus Christ is two "Natures", the Divine as eternally God, and the Human, at His Incarnation, though this is sinless. He is One Person, not two. When He was "tested" by the devil, it was the One Person Who was, and not the "human nature", only, as God-Man, it is impossible for Jesus to have ever fallen/failed. To "test" someone is with the expectation that they MIGHT fail, which is not a sin. It is only a sin when we do fail.

 

You are in grave error in what you say here!

It is very clear from Matthew 1:16, and Luke 1:35 (KJV, etc), that Jesus Christ actually derived His "Human Nature" directly from the Virgin Mary, sin excepted. He is consubstantial with us humans by this, as is The God-Man, fully God and fully Human in His Natures. This means that Jesus Christ IS from Adam, otherwise He does not have a "real Human Nature", which is a heresy!