My Outline of Endtime Events for 2006 Study

I. PRE-ENDTIME EVENTS - Outline by Mel Miller

1. Seal One being fulfilled - Victory/struggle.
2. Leads to global rule; Babylon the Great.
3. Daniel's 70th Seven - Covenant with Israel.
4. Temple rebuilt while Babylon rules from Rome.

II. MID-70th EVENTS - Begin 3½ Times; 1290 Days

5. Ten destroy Rome by Fire; Transfer Jerusalem.
6. Antichrist revealed as Ten Kings support him.
7. Covenant of Daniel's 70th broken. Dan.12:11
8. Satan Cast from heaven - 12:7-9; Dan.12:1
9. Prophets begin 1260-day task; Kingdom Power!
10. Seals Two thru Five. Peace taken from earth.

III. ENDTIME EVENTS - 42 Months; 1260 Days

11. Five Trumpets - Not same target as Plagues.
12. Five Plagues - Directed at Beast Kingdom.
13. Trump 6 and Plague 6 back to back. 11:14
14. Beast kills Prophets. Armies at Armageddon.
15. Prophets remain dead up to 3 1/2 days.
#13 to 15 give false sense of "Peace, Safety."

IV. LASTDAY - www.lastday.net and Centerpiece

“Day One” of 1000-Year-Day 2 Pet.3:8,10,12.
“Gegonen” Launches Day One - 16:17. Bowls 6 & 7 (16:12-17) empty before Seal 6 opens - 6:12-17

A. Outer Concentric Path

16. Plague 7 remains suspended until Trump 7.
17. Signs of Seal 6 begin 1000-Yr-Day of Lord.
18. Firstfruit to God/Lamb sealed and rescued.
19. Warnings of doom across the sky. 14:6-11
20. Wicked reaped to Winepress of great anger.
21. G & W Sign; Songs of Martyrs & 144,000 Jews.

B. Middle Concentric Path - Open Temple Drama

22. 3-Act Temple Drama. 15:5; 7:9-8:5; 11:15-19
23. Prophets arise to witness at Court. 8:1-5
24. Great Quake kills 7000 tenth of Jerusalem.
25. Act One - Praise God and Lamb. TESTIMONY
26. Act Two - Court of Seal 7; Dan.7. TRIBUNAL
27. Act Three - "God's wrath has come." TRIUMPH

C. Inner Concentric Path - Transition 11:19
2nd, 3rd Storm Scenes back to back- 11:19; 16:18

28. Babylon falls by History's greatest quake.
29. Apostles, Prophets, Saints rejoice. 18:20
30. Saints prepare for Lamb's Wedding. 19:7-10
31. Heaven Opens; Christ Descends with Saints.
32. Tribes mourn between Mark 13:27; Matt.24:31

D. Hour of Trial - Luke 21:35-36; Luke 17:31-37

33. Christ treads winepress in anger + wrath.
34. Begins ruling nations for 1000 years.
35. All wicked destroyed; All Israel saved.
36. Flashback to Martyrs sitting in Judgment.
37. Globally, unrepentant perish. 16:18-21
38. Beasts cast to Hell, Satan bound in Abyss.
39. Retroactive reference to First Resurrection.
40. Rule until 1000 years "should be finished."
41. Satan released at end of “Day of Lord”.
42. Battle of Gog and Magog. 20:7-9
43. Satan cast to Hell. 20:10
44. Heaven and Earth flee away. 20:11
45. Sheep/Goat Nations separated. Goats to Hell.
46. Great White Throne Judgment. 20:12-15
47. Day of God; Creation New Heavens/Earth.
48. Sheep inherit earthly kingdom. Matt.25:32-34
49. Bring honor into NJ, healed-21:24-26;22:2,14
50. Bride inhabits New Jerusalem. 21:2,9

Two Perfect Participles in Revelation for #1096. One: "Gegonen"(16:17) launches Day One of 1000 Year-Day & 100 Lastday verses. Armies gather to Armageddon prior to Seal Six! "Blessings" of Dan.12:12; Rev.19:9; 20:6 anticipate Millennium.

Two: "Gegonan" (21:6) launches New Heavens and Earth. “All things new” herald blessings of eternity; “Gegonen” (16:17) heralds Lastday!

Teaching that the Day of the Lord includes Daniel’s 70th Seven is very misleading as it requires a 1007-Year-Day of the Lord! The OT
“signs” of that Day are those of Seal Six and are placed by Jesus “on one day” immediately after great tribulation - Day He is revealed. Lk.17:24-30
Mel Miller Junior Member 13061

 

Minor Changes to My Outline for Discussion:

I. PRE-ENDTIME EVENTS - Outline by Mel Miller

1. Seal One being fulfilled - Victory/Sruggle.
2. Leads to global rule of Babylon the Great.
3. Dan's 70th 7 begins - Covenant with Israel.
4. Temple rebuilt while Babylon rules from Rome.
[War of Ezekiel 38-39 in time of “peace”]

II. MID-70th EVENTS - Begin 3½ Times; 1290 Days
5. Ten destroy Rome/Fire; Transfer to Jerusalem.
6. Antichrist revealed as Ten Kings support him.
7. Covenant broken. Dan.12:11 (9:27)
8. Satan Cast to earth - 12:7-9; Dan.12:1
9. Prophets begin 1260-day task; Kingdom Power!
10. Seal Two - Peace taken from the earth.

III. ENDTIME EVENTS - 42 Months; 1260 Days

11. Seals 3 to 5 and Five Trumpets Overlap
12. Plagues 1-5 - Directed at Beast and Kingdom.
13. Trump 6 and Plague 6 occur back to back 11:14
14. Beast kills Prophets. Armies at Armageddon.
15. Prophets remain dead as Armies invade Israel.
[#13 to 15 = false sense of "Peace, Safety."]

IV. LASTDAY - See www.lastday.net and Centerpiece

“Day One” of 1000-Year-Day - 2 Pet.3:8,10,12.
“Gegonen” heralds end of Age; Launches Day One - 16:17. Bowls 6-7

 

Continuation:


(16:12-17) empty before Seal 6 opens - 6:12-17

A. Outer Concentric Path - 40 Verses

16. Plague 7 remains suspended until Trump 7.
17. Signs of Seal 6 begin 1000-Yr-Day of Lord.
18. Firstfruit to God/Lamb sealed and rescued.
19. Warnings of doom across the sky. 14:6-11
20. Wicked reaped to Winepress of great anger.
21. G & W Sign; Songs of Martyrs/144,000 Jews.

B. Middle Path - 22 Verses - Transition - 15:5

22. 3-Act Temple Drama. 7:9-8:5; 11:15-19
23. Prophets arise to witness at Court. 8:1-5
24. Great Quake kills 7000 tenth of Jerusalem. 25. Act One - Praise God and Lamb. TESTIMONY
26. Act Two - Court of Seal 7; Dan.7. TRIBUNAL
27. Act Three - "God's wrath has come." TRIUMPH

C. Inner Concentric Path - 38 Verses - Transition 11:19
2nd, 3rd Storm Scenes back to back- 11:19; 16:18

28. Babylon falls by History's greatest quake.
29. Apostles, Prophets, Saints rejoice. 18:20
30. Saints prepare for Lamb's Wedding. 19:7-10
31. Heaven Opens; Christ Descends with Saints.
32. Tribes mourn between Mark 13:27; Matt.24:31

D. Hour of Trial - Luke 21:35-36; Luke 17:31-37
Still Inner Concentric Path

33. Christ treads winepress in anger + wrath.
34. Begins ruling nations for 1000 years.
35. All wicked destroyed; All Israel saved.
36. Flashback to Martyrs sitting in Judgment.
37. Globally, unrepentant perish. 16:18-21
38. Beasts cast to Hell, Satan bound in Abyss.
39. Retroactive reference to First Resurrection.

V. POST-MIL EVENTS

40. Satan released near end of “Day of Lord”.
41. Satan deceives (Goat) nations.
42. Battle of Gog and Magog. 20:7-9
43. Satan cast to Hell. 20:10
44. Heaven and Earth flee away. 20:11
45. Sheep/Goat Nations separated. Goats to Hell.
46. Great White Throne Judgment. 20:12-15
47. Day of God; Creation New Heavens/Earth.
48. Sheep inherit earthly kingdom. Matt.25:32-34
49. Bring honor into NJ, healed-21:24-26;22:2,14
50. Bride inhabits New Jerusalem. 21:2,9

Two Perfect Participles in Revelation for #1096.
One: "Gegonen"(16:17) launches Day One of 1000
Year-Day & 100 Lastday verses. Armies gather to
Armageddon prior to Seal Six! "Blessings" of Dan.
12:12; Rev.19:9; 20:6 anticipate Millennium.

Two: "Gegonan" (21:6) launches New Heavens and
Earth. “All things new” herald blessings of eternity;
“Gegonen”(16:17) heralds Lastday!

Teaching the Day of the Lord includes Daniel’s 70th Seven very misleading as it requires a 1007-Year-Day of the Lord! O.T. “signs” of that Day are those of Seal Six and placed by Jesus “on one day” immediately after great tribulation - Day He is revealed; to destroy all the wicked.
Matt.24:29; Lk.17:24-30 (So Rev.10:6-7). We “watch” until Armageddon; day Christ appears. 16:15.

Mel Miller Junior Member 13061

 

Happy New Year Watchman,

The answer, IMO, is related to what happens
when Christ descends and "gathers the elect".

Jesus states He is coming "as a thief" in the context of the 6th Plague with the armies gathered to Armageddon. Those who "watch", He says, "will be blessed at keeping their expectation" of His imminent appearance in a
heightened state of an "any-moment" reality.

Jesus put a "dual" phase of expectation in the minds of the Apostles by distinguishing between
"signs" of that DAY and the "hour" He appears!

Even the 7 classes of unbelievers hiding in
the mountains will acknowlege the DAY of God's
(and of the Lamb's) wrath has come when they
see the signs in the "sun, moon and stars".

While Believers will "know His coming is near" (Matt.24:33; due to the killing of the
Two Witnesses when the 1260 "countdown days"
are finished; for "chronos time is no longer"), they will know the Day of the Lord will occur
within 3 1/2 days of their deaths. Rev.10:6-7; Rev.11:7-12.

On the day these Two Rise up, the 7th Trumpet
will proclaim "God's wrath has come" because
all Believers rise up on "the last day", Jno.
6:40, DAY ONE of the 1000-Year-Day of the Lord.

Knowing that DAY ONE has begun (the whole world
will see the Two Prophets arise to heaven),
Believers will also know Christ's coming is
not only IMMIMENT; but will occur "any moment"!

The timing of this Hour awaits the events from #22 to #32 for the OPEN Temple's Three-Act Drama from Rev.7:9 to Rev.8:5 and Rev.11:15-19. The Two Witnesses will join in TESTIMONY, TRIBUNAL and TRIUMPH in the presence of God and the Lamb that climaxes with the Christ's descent to gather the Elect "from the earth" before the Angels "gather them out of the 4 winds from all extremities of the heavenS".

As a teenager in the thirties, before Israel
even thought of returning to their land, I was taught by a Plymouth Brethren pastor that the Elect of Mark 13:27 are Jews who would one day
be re-gathered to their land.

That word "re-gathered" doesn't fit the context since Jesus said He will "gather the Elect from earth to heaven after the great tribulation". The tribes of earth will begin to "mourn" before the Angels complete the gathering. Matt.24:30-31. He also promised "any one willing to die, remembering Lot's wife, will be preserved (kept alive) ON THE DAY He is Revealed". Luke 17:33-33.

Knowing He is coming "as a thief" while we are
"blessed for watching" on DAY ONE of the "Day
of the Lord" and that "all believers will rise
up because it is also the last day" of this age,
I changed my view to Post-Trib 60 years ago. As
with me, you have many scriptures to consider.

I happy to meet a "thinking" person.
Mel Miller
Junior Member 13061 www.lastday.net

 

Dear Fellow-Watchman,

You have raised what seems to be 3 problems with my view.
ONE: How can God allow His people to go through great tribulation if it is the time for His wrath when Paul taught that “WE (all the Saints who come WITH Him) are not appointed to His wrath”? TWO: How does God “physically remove us
from the scene of wrath” as He did in Lot’s case? THREE: How does the Church at Philadelphia represent those who will
be “kept from the HOUR of Trial”? Rev.3:10.

I am thankful you seem to you agree Jesus was speaking to Believers “in general to the end of the age”; but I wonder if you agree the “end” includes ALL events of the great tribulation;
for Jesus does not come to destroy the wicked AND rescue the Elect (Matt.24:31,39 and Luke 17:29-30 and Luke 21:27,36) until “one of the days” right after the great tribulation when, as
John writes, “chronos-time shall be no longer”. Rev.10:6-7. The 7th Trumpet is “about to sound in the days right after they finish their 1260-day task”! The armies must be at Armageddon in
order for God to destroy all the wicked on the same DAY Christ is revealed to rescue the Saints; and all who call on Him for mercy.
(This last phrase is the least understood part of God’s plan).

Question: “Is it possible the HOUR of Trial on all the inhabitants on all the face of all the earth” is the SAME hour in Luke 21:35 from which Believers who “keep His word to endure are kept”?
Note that in Luke Jesus urges some who are left behind to “watch and pray to escape” the devastation of this HOUR and to stand before the Son of Man! Most everyone assumes those ho “pray
(beg; Greek) to escape” are Believers who do so before the signs of that DAY occur in vs. 25; before men faint from fear in vs. 26 and before the Son of Man appears in vs. 27.

For your answer, please consider that vs.34-36 and I Thess.5:1-3 are the only places that use the same words for the “suddenness” of Christ’s coming as a thief from which the wicked “cannot escape” . . . but that here Jesus urges those left behind to “keep praying to escape”!! This is not a contradiction, but shows God has others
than the Elect in mind who have come “with Him” as of the HOUR of Trial. Rev.17:14 and Matt. 24:30 intersect Mark 13:27 and Matt.24:31, as well as Luke 17:30-33 with those who mourn,
and are willing to die, being given a short time to repent!

Jesus will have already “gathered the Elect from earth to heaven” even in Luke’s account and the ones who “pray to escape are the ones who mourn” in Matthew’s account and whom Paul says will
be “shown mercy” in Rom.11:32-33. For at that time surely “all those who have overcome to the End will be kept from that hour” and the Martyrs will receive the highest possible reward of being given three names (Rev.3:12), including that of the New Jerusalem, and will “serve God in heaven’s Temple” for 1000 years before
“all the wicked” are judged on the “Day of God”.

Now, we know that “just as Lot was rescued on the same DAY the wicked were destroyed, so all the wicked will be destroyed on the SAME day Christ is revealed”. Luke 17:29-30. Jesus reveals
the same thing in Matt.24:31, 39 and again in Luke 21:27,36.

HOW MUCH TIME MUST PASS between the Signs of that Day and the HOUR Christ “gathers the Elect and those who keep begging to escape may hope to prevail and be kept alive” to fulfill
Luke 17:30-33?

Question: “How can we call the Plagues a time of anything but God’s anger (thumos) when it is still possible for men to repent” until the fifth Plague? Rev.16:9-11. Satan’s wrath takes over before God’s patience is exhausted in the Plagues. As a result, the Martyrs sing that God “manifested his righteous deeds” in the Plagues. The Temple opens for the TESTIMONY before God and the Lamb, for the TRIBUNAL of Seal 7 and the TRIUMPH of the 7th Trump . . .
all before proclaiming “God’s wrath has come
and the appointed time to judge the dead (requires the resurrection) and to reward the
saints (requires the rapture) and to destroy earth’s destroyers”!

The 7th Trumpet sounds on one of the (3½) days after the tribulation while the 7th Plague remains suspended in the air because God’s
anger (thumos) does not fill the Cup of Wrath (Rev.14:10; orgay) until the last Plague empties (Rev.15:8) and the smoke of God’s glory and power clears the Temple from Rev.7:9 to Rev.8:5; Rev.11:15-19. Drama is launched retroactively at Rev.15:5.

You show the possibility that the church at Philadelphia represents the Saints who will be “kept from wrath” and rightfully include
those who “overcome to the end” and who will be rewarded by “serving God in the Temple of heaven day and night” for 1000 Years before the New Jerusalem comes down from heaven SINCE there will be “no temple, nor day and night in the New Jerusalem.” They will be “kept from the HOUR of Trial and still overcome to the End” (Rev.3:10-12) as required of all survivors who wish to
“sit on thrones and reign on the earth” OR if Martyrs to “sit in judgment (Rev.20:4) and serve God in heaven day and night and reign with Christ for 1000 years”. Even while the Lamb shepherds them in heaven with blessings that are reserved for the Bride of the Lamb in eternity! Rev.7:15-17; Rev.20:4; Rev.21:1-3.

Watchman, I see the message of Revelation for Overcomers; especially the Martyrs! As you wrote, “The end time Churches are represented by Laodicea (the false) and Philadelphia (the true). Philadelphia will be spared a time of testing (ONE HOUR that will effect the whole world”. And so this verse makes great sense
for all who “keep the word to endure”!

Mel Miller
Junior Member 13061 www.lastday.net

 

Brother Ed,

I have always understood the HOUR to which
Jesus refers concerns His Coming/Presence to:

(1) Gather the elect and (2) To destroy all the wicked on the same solar day that He is revealed
in glory and power . . . no matter at what hour He fulfills these two purposes on that "same day". No other explanation of Lk.17:29-30
makes any sense. This is a 24-hour solar day.

The Day of the Lord must include the HOUR of Trial coming unawares (suddenly) "on all the inhabitants on all the face of all the earth". The word in Luke 21:34-35 for His "sudden" coming like a thief (like a snare) is associated with what happens after He appears in Luke 21 and at His coming in I Thess.5:1-3 when "none can escape".

Amazingly, Jesus allows that His own people will be rescued on the day of "no escape"!! This is
what Paul calls the day of salvation for Israel.

The usual interpretation is that the HOUR of Trial is the entire 70th Seven of Daniel's prophecy which has no refence to the suddenness of Christ's coming. The solar "DAYS after the known days of great tribulation" (which will be cut short from 1290 to 1260) must first reach the moment only God knows when the "last one who must be killed" brings Him/us to the events of the 7th Trumpet that occur as soon as Christ descends to carry them out.

That Trumpet proclaims God's wrath "has come"
AFTER there is no more delay because the time
of the Tribulation ends "in the days it is
about to sound". The unknown last day will be one of 3 1/2 days which are beyond the countdown of 1260 days so that "no one will know" in advance on which day the Last Trumpet sounds for the Feast of Tabernacles . . of Ingathering.

But it must occur on the day/night of a "full
moon" which again testifies that the DAY and
the Hour belong to a solar DAY; not to a period
of time . . . for "chronos (countdown) time
ends in the days" before the 7th Trumpet sounds!

Mel Miller Junior 13061

 

"IT IS DONE"

Friends,

How many of you have noticed that these words
appear twice in the Book of Revelation?

I believe the first time these words are heard,
it signals the Lamb of God to open Seal Six for
its Signs of the Last Day.

If this is true, then the 7th Plague must empty
in the air before the Events of that Day begin!

Please note that MY OUTLINE Thread begins these
events with the Voice, coming out of the Temple
from the Throne, saying "It is Done" as soon as
the Last Bowl empties Plague #7 into the air!!
Mel Miller www.lastday.net

 

drfuss, Welcome,

What a "refreshing" approach! I also liked the
approach of the two who have responded so far
to my "Study for the year 2006".

You reveal an "open-mindedness": "could be"!
You are searching for the "big picture"!

I have had a direct response from just two
people since 12/31/05. One shows concern as
to where the Rapture takes place in My Outline.
He struggles with points #22-32.

The other good person struggles with whether the Day of the Lord includes the great tribulation. I had a separate thread on this question and only a few responded as it is a larger issue.

The most divisive question on this board seems
to be over #40-#50 and the question as to a
"general resurrection" which obviates the need/
possibility for the Pre-Millennial viewpoint.

One "indirect" response, made on another thread, charges that I am "completely wrong on Endtime events". This is the approach by one who has determined he knows all since the early drafts
of what Baptists believe seem to bar the "right
to teach" to anyone who questions the doctrine
of a "general resurrection".

So, my friend, I selected the main point of
difference on the Board (as to when DAY ONE
begins) and have not yet received a counter-
point from the one who seems to "know all".

Please note my reference to this Point above
under "IT IS DONE" and tell me if you think
it "Could Be" as presented.

Mel Miller Junior 13061 www.lastday.net

 

drfuss,

You could stimulate some keen discussion with
this question: "Why is Dan missing"?

I personally think the 144,000 are Jews whom
the Lamb rescues from Mt. Zion in His first
act following the opening of Seal Six to signal
the start of DAY ONE of the 1000-Year-Day of the Lord! What occurs in their rescue *after* the
great tribulation, and also recorded *after* the Beast's rule ends as of Rev.13:18, also occurs
as soon as they have been sealed with His name.
Rev.7:1-8; Rev.14:1-5. (Here the KJV does not
give the info as in the NASB or NIV; Rev.14:1).

Immediately *after* the 7 classes of humans hiding in the hills acknowledge the DAY of Wrath has begun (as 4 winds are held back long enough to seal the 144,000 with His name; having been already sealed by His Father's name), the Lamb proceeds to LITERALLY rescue the Jews on Mt. Zion as predicted by Joel 2:32.

The fact that the Tribe of Dan is missing, IMO,
is one of the strongest reasons to support the
necessity for restoring both Houses of Judah
and Israel at the head of the nations (for 1000 years) so that "all men will come to know the Lord, from the least to the greatest", a fact for fulfillment that is woefully lacking through the Church with less than 2 hundredths of one percent of Muslems saved in many lands and with persecution yet to increase to the point of millions of martyrs!!

It is only after the FIRSTFRUIT "redeemed from earth, and from among men," have been taken to heaven "to present the Son of Man to the Ancient of Days" (Dan.7:13), on the Day of Wrath, that the Temple in Heaven will OPEN and the COURT of Seal 7 and Dan.7:22 will SIT in Judgment (with all the martyrs in attendance).

As a result of that Judgment, the 7th Trumpet sounds: "God's wrath has come and the appointed time to judge the dead (requiring their resurrection) and to destroy the destroyers of earth" (requiring the rescue of the FIRSTFRUIT prior to Christ's descent to "gather the Elect from the earth"!

DAN appears FIRST in the list of the original 12 Tribes restored to their original position as the recipients of the division of the land to fulfill God's promise to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Ezek.48:1. The names of the gates of
the city in the Millennium are the same as those in Genesis, Ezek.48:30-35 and Rev.21:12!

God's blessing has been withheld from the Tribe
of Dan (because of continual false worship by
Dan and later by the Kings of the Ten Tribes) and it is reflected in the Scriptures over and over since the original division among the descendants of Dan who are conspicuouly absent from the list in First Chronicles.

Too much data here to give scripture except
in follow-up on any further questions.

Sincerely, to one who shows such restrained discernment. I am guided by the resrtriction
that "no one enters the Temple in heaven for
the testimony of the tabernacle of testimony
until the smoke of God's power and glory"
clears the Temple *after* the last plague
empties in the air. Rev.15:5-8.

Mel Miller Junior www.lastday.net

 

Hi JohnV,

A well-known observation; but, IMO, only if
the text of Matt.24:36 is taken "in context"!

If the text refers to what we "know now,"
before the Endtime is known to have begun,
then your observation is not "in context".

The text for those whom Jesus instructs to:

"Watch at every appointed time" (Luke
21:36) is more explicit than the text in
Matthew which also, in context, relates
specifically to what "happens" on the
"unknown" day Christ appears *after the
great tribulation*!!

Those who are watch "always", in Luke's
account, refers to those who suddenly
realize their "redemption and kingdom
are near". Luke 21:28,31.

The only context to which Matt.24:36
can possibly refer, Jesus said, is "one
of the days *after* the great tribulation"!
That is the explicit context in which the
final remnant of Jews will recognize the
"Day of the Lord has come". The Elect,
who are not stated in Luke as part of those
who "know the End is near" much earlier
than the Day on which Christ will appear,
suddenly realize their "kingdom is near"!
[I will accept any challenge to prove this].

So, prior to that context, I agree with you
that we should not "pretend to know what
Jesus did not know".

The more nearly correct viewpoint, I think,
is that we will "know the End is Near"
(Matt.24:33), as Jesus said, only when we
"see the abomination sitting in the temple"
and, more specifically, when we "see the
signs of the DAY of God's and His wrath, DAY
ONE of His glorious rule over all mankind for 1000 years.

This is the Day toward which all the Martyrs
in heaven will be looking to hear the Master
say: "Well Done"; for they will know the End
has come when the Two Witnesses join them in
the OPEN TEMPLE in heaven!

"No one can enter the Temple of the Tabernacle
of the Testimony until the smoke of God's
glory and power" clears the Temple *after* the
last plague empties in the air". Rev.15:5-8.

Thank you, John
Mel Miller Junior www.lastday.net

 

Johnv,

Your first post, at 1:35 PM Wednesday, Jan.4,
had to do with the "day and hour Christ comes"
whereas your post today, Jan.5, at 1:04 PM,
has to do with the "year" that He might come.

People have assumed the Day of the Lord is a period of years that separate the Rapture Day from the Second Coming Day. My premise is that both occur on the "same 12-Hour-Day"!

People are confused because Jesus was talking
about "gathering the Elect together above on
the same day He is revealed" to destroy the wicked.
Luke 17:27-30; Luke 21:25-36; Mark 13:24-27; Matt.24:31,36,39.

He taught that Believers will "know the End is
Near". Matt.24:33. But the remnant of Jews who
"mourn" when they see Him and who are not called the Elect in Luke's account, will "know their
kingdom is near" only when they see the signs
of the Day of God's wrath (after the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled) and see the signs
of the Day He comes to "redeem" them. Luke 21:
28,31.

Then they will "keep begging to escape and to prevail in standing before the Son of Man...
on the Day that comes suddenly, as a snare," on the entire world of unbelievers. Luke 21:35-36.

Christ's statement that "no one knows the day or the hour" has been taken out of context and applied to a Pre-Trib day for the Rapture as if it and the Second Coming are two parts of the SAME "7-Year-Day" of the Lord.

The signs of the Day of the Lord occur "after the great tribulation" as Jesus clearly taught.

Therefore, the question of the "year" of the
Second Coming and the "Day and Hour" of the
Day of the Lord must be seen as referring to
the same 12-Hour Day that inclues the Rapture.

No one can expect to see that Day until the
last Martyr has been killed and "all those
out of the tribulation" enter the open
Temple in heaven" for the Court to Sit in
Judgment in Seal 7 and Dan.7:22 and the 7th
Trumpet sounds that "God's wrath has come".

"No one can enter the Temple until the last
plague empties in the air, i.e., until the
smoke of God's glory and power clears as of
the last plague". Rev.15:5-8; Then Rev.7:9...

Mel Miller Junior www.lastday.net

 

Johnv,

My Outline makes no mention of dates.
It concerns the order of events ONLY.

Jesus spent a lot of time on questions
regarding His second coming. It is fine
if you wish to confine your time to the
"first coming". You are being unjust to
imply I am "wrong" about giving the date
for the second coming.

Respectfully, I wonder why you responded.
Mel Miller Junior www.lastday.net