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  1. percho

    percho Well-Known Member
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    The kingdom of God a Government?
     
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    Psalms 22:28 For the kingdom is the LORD's: And he is the governor among the nations.

    Psalms 47:8 God reigneth over the heathen: God sitteth upon the throne of his holiness.

    Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

    Daniel 4:34-35 I praised and honoured him that liveth for ever, whose dominion is an everlasting dominion, and his kingdom is from generation to generation: and all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?
     
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    Thanks for your reply Ken.

    And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. Dan 2:44 KJV

    Is that the kingdom, the government of God? In your opinion will it be inclusive of economics, education, infrastructure and so forth on the earth? Who is/are the ruler/rulers?

    Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory. And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold. And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth. Dan 2:37-39

    In your opinion do you think we will have to experience, one world government, a new world order, a one world economy before God turns the government of the earth over to Jesus and the saints?

    Just a couple of verses.

    And we have known that to those loving God all things do work together for good, to those who are called according to purpose; because whom He did foreknow, He also did fore-appoint, conformed to the image of His Son, that he might be first-born among many brethren;
    And himself is the head of the body -- the assembly -- who is a beginning, a first-born out of the dead, that he might become in all things -- himself -- first,
    for the earnest looking out of the creation doth expect the revelation of the sons of God; for to vanity was the creation made subject -- not of its will, but because of Him who did subject it -- in hope, that also the creation itself shall be set free from the servitude of the corruption to the liberty of the glory of the children of God;

    Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
    for I delivered to you first, what also I did receive, that Christ died for our sins, according to the Writings, and that he was buried, and that he hath risen on the third day, according to the Writings,

    And himself is the head of the body -- the assembly -- who is a beginning, a first-born out of the dead, that he might become in all things -- himself -- first,



    Thoughts
     
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    The kingdom of God is the church.

    What God has ordained to happen between today and when Christ returns and this present heavens and earth are removed(there is no literal 1000 years of "paradise" on this present earth to be set up when Christ returns. Think about it, why have a 1000 years of "paradise" on this present earth to then turn around and burn it all up?) and the new heavens and earth wherein dwells righteousness is formed, I do not know. I do know that not a single atom moves in this universe except as directed by God for His purposes and glory.

    2 Peter 3:10-13 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

    Since you have an interest in these matters, I heartily recommend reading William Hendriksen's commentary on the book of Revelation, available online to read for free:

    Hendricksen-W-More_Than_Conquerors_-1940.pdf (tn-biblecollege.edu)
     
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    In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

    Are the below inclusive in that in bold? What is so special about about the earth? No 3 from the sun.

    Will there always be an earth, how be it, a new earth?

    1. Mercury
    2. Venus

    3. Mars
    4. Jupiter
    5. Saturn
    6. Uranus
    7. Neptune

    And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. Dan 2:44

    Is this on the earth. Where were all those kingdoms befor this one?
     
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    Yes. It is the church.

    That is referring to the kingdoms during that period of history in which the world was being prepared for the first coming of Christ - Babylon, Medes and Persians, Greek, and Roman.
     
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    Read 2 Peter 3:10-13. Only righteousness will dwell in the new heavens and earth.
     
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