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Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by GentleGospeller, Aug 10, 2024.

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  1. kyredneck

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  2. GentleGospeller

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    I thought Baptists were supposed to be Bible Christians ...

    QUESTION: IS SATAN STILL TRYING TO GET BACK INTO HEAVEN? ARE WICKED MEN TRYING TO CLIMB UP SOME OTHER WAY THAN THE WAY – JESUS CHRIST? WILL IT WORK?

    In science falsely so called (1 Tim. 6:20), another ‘tower’ exists, in which rebellious mankind seeks another way into Heaven, heeding satan with his desire to spread sin into all the universe. God will not allow it. Mankind cannot leave this world’s outer boundary, nor take anything out of its outer boundary (while living - 1 Tim. 6:7; or in death - Job 1:21; Ecc. 5:15), for it is under strict quarantine, surrounded by a cloud of heavenly angelic beings (as at Mt. Sinai, a wall of fire), & the only ones allowed in or out, are the heavenly nurses (ministering angels), and Great Physician (Jesus), & representative (Holy Spirit).

    Mankind was never given permission to control, nor have dominion over, anything in the heavens (Gen. 1:26,28), as they belong to God.

    Psa. 115:16 The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD'S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men.

    The devil was called “god of this world” (2 Cor. 4:4), earth (as Adam was before in stewardship to God, Psa. 82:1,6; Jhn. 10:34) & so is not a “god” over any other heavenly body, including Sun, moon or stars (local planets reflecting light of the Sun), or anything beyond.

    Even when satan, for a time before Calvary (Rev. 12:10; Rom. 5:6), having usurped (Isa. 14:13; Psa. 94:20; Rev. 2:13) Adam's rule, had access to the gates (Psa. 24:7,9; Rev. 21:12-15,21,25, 22:14) of Heaven, being representative of this world (Job 1:6-12, 2:1-7; 1 Kin. 22:19-22; 2 Chr. 18:18-21), he never had control over other heavenly bodies, though with access to high altitude (LEO (Low Earth Orbit), or UEA (Upper Earth Atmosphere); Eph. 6:12; & especially high level in govt.), being the “prince of the power of the air” (Eph. 2:2), cannot leave this world. Sin is contained to earth (see Lev. 13; 7 days from camp, Rev. 3:12, 21:2; Gal. 4:26). Other heavenly worlds & the beings thereon, are unfallen (Mat. 18:11-14; Luk. 15:4-7; Heb. 1:2, 11:3, see also 4 (universal) living creatures/beasts (nations), & 24 elders (leaders of unfallen worlds), circling throne of Eternal Deity in Eze. 1 & 10; Rev. 4, 7, 14, 15, 19).

    Only 1 way into Heaven, from this terrestrial sphere (Isa. 40:22, 'circle' in 3 dimensions - a sphere, which is a circle seen from every angle by God) now, is by vision (Rev. 1:10), or by Jesus’ return (Jhn. 14:1-4). Any space program (which has some truth, some error) is simply another ‘tower’, another ladder other than the Jacob’s Ladder - Jesus. They cannot ever succeed.

    N.A.S.A. - Not Always Scientifically Accurate;
    N.A.S.A. - Never A Straight Answer;
    N.A.S.A. - Numerous Anomalies Scams Abound;
    N.A.S.A. - National Academy of Space Actors;
    N.A.S.A. - Not Anything, Simply Aether;
    N.A.S.A. - Neither Aerospace, Sadly, Astro-NOTS!;
    N.A.S.A. - Never Accept Serpent Assertions.

    (see [1] Massimo Mazzucco - American Moon (photography expert), [2] Bill Kaysing (ex Rocket-Dyne technical writer & service engineer), [3] James Collier (Was it only a paper moon? (journalist); [4] Bart Sibrel (A funny thing happened on the way to the moon & Astronauts Gone Wild); [5] Ralph Rene (NASA Mooned America); [6] Marcus Allen (Aulis & Nexus magazine); [7] David Percy (What happened on the Moon); [8] Mary Bennett; [9] Jim (James) Fetzer; [10] Jarrah White (Moon Faker, Mars Faker); [11] Richard Hall & fellows; (richplanet.net); [12] NASA itself (Van Allen Radiation Belts, Destruction of Technology, Loss of Telemetry Data).

    Believe God’s word over our eyes & ears (2 Pet. 1:15-21), in what satan sought to present to us through the medium of tele-vision (Mat. 4:8-10; Luk. 4:5-8). Through satan’s deceptions, the whole world that does not have the love of the truth (2 Thes. 2:10), are deceived (Rev. 12:9, 13:14, 18:23, 19:20, 20:10; 2 Tim. 3:13, &c.), just as it was in the beginning, for Eve truly believed she had entered a higher ‘sphere’ (world) of experience, when all the while, it was a delusion.

    The only way in which a man may be truly “lifted up” (Jhn. 3:14, 8:28, 12:32) to Heaven, is not by force of might and strength of arm, willpower and satanic ingenuity, but it is only through Calvary, and dying upon the Cross appointed by God. It is never achieved by exalting (propelling) one’s self upward that one gains Heaven and surpassing of earth’s furthest boundaries, but it is by lowering one self, and humbling one’s self to the dust, and dying unto the death of the Cross that we are then taken by God and exalted to Heaven. Jesus gave the example (Php. 2:5-11).
     
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    Like I said mate, you’ve headed off into the weeds. Come back, everyone misses you.
     
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    MOD NOTE: I'm not defending Baptists in what I say here. I'm just giving you fair warning.

    I see post after post here where you are exceedingly rude and condescending. I just don't get the anger.

    You are free to your opinion and to express it here - within reason. You are not free to rudely treat people as if they are cognitively beneath you just because you don't share the same thoughts.

    Fair warning.
     
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    That’s three questions. :)
     
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    Close the thread - locked.
     
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