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In the book of Jonah, God reveals His desires to people and then takes action based on their response. He makes conditional covenants, i.e. if you repent, then I will relent.

In Genesis 12:1-4 we see that God revealed His desire to Abram, and then Abram submitted to God. So rather than saying God took Abraham from across the river, a better choice in translation would be God led Abraham across the river. See Joshua 24:3.

As lost people, they need to bring themselves to having a faith like Abraham, fully committed, holding nothing back, and trusting fully in the promises of God.

The Gospel message is that when God discerns that faith like Abraham's in a lost person, He credits that faith as righteousness, and transfers than individual into Christ. Thus, everyone believing into Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.

 

The issue is not that we respond to God's revelation. That has nothing to do with the issue. It is a dodge, a deflection.

The issue is do we respond without God compelling us with irresistible grace. Calvinism falsely claims the lost must be enabled and compelled, but biblical truth proclaims, many of the lost, but not all, can and do respond without needing irresistible grace to spiritual milk, the fundamentals of the gospel.

This is the truth being evaded in post after post.


In the book of Jonah, God reveals His desires to people and then takes action based on their response. He makes conditional covenants, i.e. if you repent, then I will relent.

In Genesis 12:1-4 we see that God revealed His desire to Abram, and then Abram submitted to God. So rather than saying God took Abraham from across the river, a better choice in translation would be God led Abraham across the river. See Joshua 24:3.

As lost people, they need to bring themselves to having a faith like Abraham, fully committed, holding nothing back, and trusting fully in the promises of God.

The Gospel message is that when God discerns that faith like Abraham's in a lost person, He credits that faith as righteousness, and transfers than individual into Christ. Thus, everyone believing into Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.

 

LOL, yet another false claim, without any biblical support, to create a diversion from the topic!!

To be "of My sheep" does not mean to be "My sheep." These constant efforts to read into scripture the bogus doctrines of people is not edifying.

To be of My sheep is to be the sort of person who is open to God's word, the sort of people who comprise the fields white for harvest.

In the scripture where Jesus says to some people, you do not believe because you are not "of" My sheep, the idea is they are not open to God's word, because their presuppositions preclude acceptance of God's truth.

 

Of My Sheep is a group, those open to God's word. Duh

To be open to God's word does not make a person more worthy of salvation, that again is an outrageous falsehood. What is inside a person who is open to the truth, a lack of prior acceptance of conflicting falsehoods. Truth sets us free, falsehood locks us into the status quo, blocking our path to righteousness.

 

None of humanity is ever worthy of salvation. Nothing we do earns, merits, or deserves salvation. All these claims that if a person hears the gospel and embraces it, makes them special or better than those unable or unwilling to believe or fully commit is nonsense.

Again and for the umpteenth time, God teaches the lost are able to will to be saved and to do works to be saved, but absolutely none of it results in salvation, salvation depends of God alone. Full Stop. Romans 9:16

 

What is being systematically denied is the fact that God credits the faith of some individuals, and transfers them spiritually into Christ. This truth from Romans Chapter 4 differs from their presuppositions arising from their indoctrination into Calvinism.

 

Once again this poster ignores the topic, but posts exactly what might come from animosity.

 

This post takes no stated position. Yet, gained approval from two other posters.

1) Did anyone see where the claim was made those saved were worthy of salvation? Neither did I.

2) Does Matthew 10:11 indicate those whose house in which they stayed was worthy of salvation? Nope The idea was they were open to God's word and willing to listen.

3) Was the Centurion worthy? See Matthew 8:8

4) Was the Prodigal son worthy? See Luke 15:19

5) Was John the Baptist worthy? See John 1:27

6) When those born anew walk according to their calling, they are considered worthy. Thus only after being washed with His blood might we be considered worthy. The lost are worthy of death.

7) BTW, the Lamb of God is indeed worthy!

 

Yes, lots of commentators hold bogus views.

Here again is the biblical view:

To be of My sheep is to be the sort of person who is open to God's word, the sort of people who comprise the fields white for harvest. ​

The Greek preposition "ek" (G1537) "... ek; a primary preposition denoting origin (the point whence action or motion proceeds),
Thus the actual view being presented is NOT among!!!! The idea is you were not the sort of people from which My sheep come.
"My sheep" come from the fields white for harvest. From people open to God's word.