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I’m a Primitive (Original) Baptist Christian

 

He's particularly Baptist!

J/king

Spurgeon called himself Particular and not Reformed because he himself believed not in the universal catholic church.

 

Right, and emphasis, Ephesians 2:1-10:

And you were dead in the trespasses and sins 2 in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience— 3 among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body[a] and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. 4 But[c] God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved— 6 and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

Also consider, "and that not of yourselves," or and this not of yourselves depending upon translation refers back to the entire Ordo Salutis stated in the opening of Ephesians chapter 1:

This or that was not any of our doing:


3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, 4 even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love 5 he predestined us for adoption to himself as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, 6 to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved. 7 In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, 8 which he lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight 9 making known[c] to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ 10 as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.
11 In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will, 12 so that we who were the first to hope in Christ might be to the praise of his glory. 13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is the guarantee[d] of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it,[e] to the praise of his glory.

 

Ahh, your not a Pelagian, good there are some on this board that are. I ignore them.

 

Yes, very much so.

 

Come on, Christ is our Lord and Savior so of course Christ is our Grace and Mercy. And that statement doesn’t exclude Devine Love.

 

Interestingly, to substantiate what you said, the Westminster Confession of Faith was written for the Baptist but the Baptist went London Baptist, and the Presbyterians of the Reformed denominations went w/ the Westminster and/or Three forms of Unity.

 

Where are you getting your information from??

 

We don’t have that, we don’t have conventions, we don’t identify as Calvinists and we do not believe in Absolute Predestination.

 

Never heard of the term Absolute Predestination.

 

You then need a crash course in PB Doctrines and History. Contact Chris Crouse at Little Union Primitive Baptist Church or listen to the sermons by about 30 different elders that are recorded on the website. We will make you a PB yet dear brother.

PS: I’m not sure that there are any Old Schoolers left on this BB site save Kentuckyredneck and yours truly. But I’m sure Chris could answer the bulk of your questions and concerns.

Little Union Primitive Baptist Church – Lithia, FL

 

Or total predestination (of all things) we believe that predestination only concerns Gods involvement with his children when salvation is the concern… it’s scriptural in 4 places. In other words, it does not concern every little thing involving our lives thus giving us the ability to make the bulk of our own decisions… like for example, I fall allot without my cane ( God doesn’t cause me to fall) it’s my own dumb choice to walk without the darn stupid thing.

 

That is my understanding of the doctrine of Predestination as well the emphasis of the doctrine of the Perseverance of the saints. If I might add, predestination only concerns the Elect, that is, their salvation to heaven and not the reprobate. Some believe predestination concerns the reprobate (and absolute destination to hell) and is a misunderstanding. G-d passes over the reprobate leaving them to their Pelagian doctrine to stand before G-d by their own merit.

 

Wrong again… but you can always call him and attempt to lure him back,,, he is a mentor of mine and a fine gentlemen & I miss him dearly.