1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

THE REMNANT AND FIRST AMONG THE NATIONS

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Alex2165, Oct 4, 2024.

  1. Alex2165

    Alex2165 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2020
    Messages:
    411
    Likes Received:
    27
    Faith:
    Seeking Christ
    FALL FOR ONE AND SALVATION FOR ANOTHER

    Romans 11.11-15

    Here Paul explained salvation of GOD but in not the usual way but in reverse also, in both ways. First, he reassured readers that even if Israel stumbled and fail in its worship and service of GOD, the entire nation of Israel will not perish and disappeared from the history of humankind, like other nation, but will live and continue their worship and service of GOD until Messiah comes a second time, then entire Israel will be the GOD'S people again and this time for eternity.

    In following verses Paul reveals that because Israel stumbled over the lack of Spirituality, Israel (not consciously) done it for the world, and their fault before GOD gave way for Gentiles to obtain this necessary Spirituality of the Law of Moses brought to them by Jesus Christ. Because of it then Israel will obtain Spirituality of their own Law, then GOD will write the Law on their hearts (souls) and then it will be a full inclusion of Israel and the faithful gentiles of the world into domain of Christ (verse 12).

    In the next verse Paul declared to reassure Gentiles that he is not just an ordinary teacher, but he is an Apostle of Christ, and not just an Apostle of Christ but also and Apostle of Gentiles sent by GOD.

    ~ 13. Apostle Paul appointed by Christ as the light to Gentiles. (Acts 9.15-16) (Romans 1.1) (Galatians 1.15-16) (Ephesians 3.8).

    ~ Isaiah appointed by GOD as a light to Gentiles: (Isaiah 42.6, 49.6).

    In verse 14 Paul announced the goal of such plan, to make his people the Jews jealous of GOD and of Gentiles whom GOD also accepted, and in their jealousy some of them will turn to their only GOD. They will be accepted and saved by GOD, but only few, "Only a remnant will be saved."

    Conclusion is such that if rejection of GOD by Israel means reconciliation of the world with GOD of Israel, then following reconciliation of Israel with their GOD means Salvation and Eternal Life for all (verse 15).

    THE FIRST AMONG NATIONS AND ARROGANCE OF GENTILES

    Romans 11.16-24

    Verse 16 starts from words, "the first piece of dough," means from the first selected people of GOD who are holy. This means only holy people of GOD, only those who are loyal and dedicated to the Lord, who never betrayed Him for other gods, will be selected and saved, like those 7000 mentioned in Romans 11.4.

    "Root of Israel" in verse 17 means Israel's ancestors like Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, certainly included and all others like Moses, Joshua, delivers of Israel, and all the prophets, they are the root of Israel. This is the holy root of the holy people on which Israel has been Spiritually built. So, if the root is holy and so the brunches of this root will be holy. In other words, holiness produces only holiness, and godlessness produce only godlessness.

    Broken brunches mean those brunches (people) who are became corrupt, did not produced expected fruit of goodness, Spiritually withered, and became useless and worthless. Such brunches farmers cut off but save the tree, because other brunches produce good fruit and very valuable.


    Gentile here portrayed as "a wild olive" brunch which was attached to the holy olive tree (Israel) through the Law of Moses and Jesus Christ and grow from that tree as foreign brunches of the wild olive tree.

    According to this theme Paul issued warning in verse 18 saying that Gentiles shall be not arrogant toward Jews and always remember that they are not original cultivated olive tree (first chosen people of GOD) but attachment to it as "wild olive brunches." It is the cultivated olive tree planted by GOD supports the brunches of the wild olive tree, in order that the wild brunches will become just like first cultivated brunches.

    Because of Jews Gentiles became Christians and they should treat Jews with respect because the Jews are the source of knowledge of GOD, source of the Law, and source of salvation for entire world, from the Jews came Jesus Christ the Jew to save the world.

    And while some cunning Gentiles among Christians declaring that Jews no longer people of GOD because they fail before Him "broken off" and Gentiles now claiming that they replace them as the people of GOD, they are deceiving themselves.

    Gentiles should have fear of GOD (verses 19-20), because the Lord is still the GOD of the Jews and would never reject them of forsake, because they are His people forever according to His Own will.

    If GOD severally punished His Own people many times for their sins and iniquities against Him, how much more He will punish Gentiles and send His righteous wrath on them for their own sins and their own iniquities against Him? (verse 21).
     
    • Like Like x 1
  2. Oseas3

    Oseas3 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2019
    Messages:
    915
    Likes Received:
    26
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    TO ALL

    João 14 - JESUS said:
    1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in GOD, believe also in me.
    12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
    19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
    18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
    20 At that Day(at the Lord's Day) ye shall know that I am in my Father(John 1:18), and ye in me, and I in you(Matthew 11:27).
    14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
    16 And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter(John 15:26), that he may abide with you for ever;
    17 Even the Spirit of Truth(GOD is the Truth); whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth GOD not, neither knoweth GOD: but ye know GOD(the Word is GOD); for the Word dwelleth with you,and GOD shall be in you.
    28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
    27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
    22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
    23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
    24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the Word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
    25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
    26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name(as an ambassador-Jeremiah 49:14 combined with Obadiah 1:1), he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
    30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
    31 But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence. Revelation 11:15-18 ->15 ... The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD(Word of Devil) are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever.
    16 The four and twenty elders, which sit before GOD on their seats, fall upon their faces and they worshipp GOD,
    17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord GOD Almighty, which are, and was, and are to come; because thou has taken to thee thy great power, and reigns.
    18 The NATIONS will be angry, and thy WRATH is come, and the time of the dead(RESURRECTION-1Thessalonians 4:15-16), that they should be Judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.
    John 14:31
    31 But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.

    Genesis 19:12-13&17:

    12 Has you here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever you has in the city(in this current demonic world), bring them out of this place(out of the demonic system -modus vivendi - dominated and ruled by the Devil):
    13 For we will destroy this place(this demonic world), because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the Lord; and the Lord hath sent us to destroy it.
    17 Escape for thy life; look not behind thee(look not to this demonic world-Remember Lot's wife), neither stay thou in all the plain (remember Lot's choice-Genesis 13:10-14); escape to the mountain(Micah 4:1-13, lest thou be consumed(2Peter 3:7&11-18.

    Luke 20:35-36
    35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world(the next world, the Kingdom of GOD, 3rd heavenly place), and the resurrection from the dead(1Thessalonians 4:15-16, take a look), neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
    36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of GOD, being the children of the resurrection.

    GOD BLESS

    GET READY
     
Loading...