Featured Time of Creation

Like you, Van, I am ignorant about many things, but not about how old the earth is. If one believes the words of God and follows his logic and learns his ways, he will understand the earth and the heavens are 6000 years old now and will be renovated with fire at the end of seven thousand years when time as we know it now will come to an end in the eternal state where nothing ages any more.

1 ¶ And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:
2 And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth,
3 And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.
4 And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.
5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

The words of the prophets that many reject will be confirmed in that day.

When God decided to make a man, he knew the man will need a place because all created beings need a place and can occupy only one place at a time. If a created being moves, it will be to a another place. That is the reason there is a new heaven and a new earth for the redeemed and a place called the lake of fire for the rebels. Everyone must have a place. The lake of fire is a place where the omnipresent God chooses not to be and even says he forgets about it.

God does not need a place. This is the reason the lake of fire is described as such a horrible place and why it has it's characteristics.

Re 22:1 ¶ And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:
4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.
5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.
6 And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.
7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.

 

I am interested in what refutations I could use, in instances where evolutionists keep pulling that 'carbon dating' card. Really grinds my gears when they do that

 

1 Timothy 6:20
O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

If a man will not believe the simple gospel of Jesus Christ he is liable to fall for anything. It takes a lot more faith to believe that carbon dating, which has been used to date a live animal at one million years old, is accurate, than to believe that the God of heaven took on the form of a man and was born into the world, lived an absolutely perfect life and then paid the sentence of death in his own body for every man, all of whom have sinned, and are forgiven and cleansed just by exercising the faith of a child and believing in him.

There will be many men twisting in hell for eternity who were too smart to believe the gospel of Jesus Christ while trying to make people around them think they are saved.

 

Where do you think light came from, Van? God is light.

The day of the LORD is comming. God will not be present on the earth and that day is described by the prophets a darkness and not light. It is thick darkess in one place.

Look at who is the light of the world.

John 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

We know now that it is the Spirit of God who was in Jesus.

How do we know? Here.

John 3:32 And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.
33 He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.
34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.

1 Th 5: But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

The church of Jesus Christ is walking in the light and is not connected to the dark, having had our eyes opened.

4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.

2 Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him (this is the rapture of the church just prior to the day of the Lord light is separated from darkness),

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. (see note)

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.


NOTE
Light will be separated from darkness and for 3.5 years there will be no deity ministering on the earth. This is the meaning of the darkness.Absence of God is the absence of light. The Spirit is ministering in the church now and gives us light, but at the rapture the Spirit will be taken away in the church of Jesus Christ.Jesus Christ will return in light when these days are over and darkness will be dispelled by his presence on the earth and the man of sin will be cast into darkness of the lake of fire.In the eternal state there will be no night there!

In the beginning God said every day he created, except one, was good,

 

Geocentrists, on the other hand, use this passage as one of their proofs.

 

Who said the day and night were defined by light and dark? It seems like God defined it by hours in the day.


John 11:9
Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world.

In 1 Thess 5 it is the drunk man who stumbles because he is in the dark while the sober man walks in the light.

The word of God is likewise light and one needs not stumble about the creation. There is plenty of light for the Bible believer. The man who does not have the Bible will be prone to stumble.

Psa 119 says;
The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding to the simple.

That is me. Simple.

Psalm 119:105
Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.

 

Well now, what is wrong with geocentrism? What scientifically consequential difference could there be between geocentrism and heliocentrism? After all, for those who subscribe to the view of continually expanding universe, the center of the universe then becomes dependent on the reference frame of the observer's choosing.

 

I mean, this is an actual thing.
https://phys.libretexts.org/Bookshe...cle_Physics_and_Cosmology/11.07:_The_Big_Bang
'The “center of expansion” does not exist, so Earth does not reside at the “privileged” center of the expansion.'

 

Consider also: Tychonic system - Wikipedia