Evangelist Bomb droppers

Several years ago when my home church up north was without a pastor, a young man from PCC called to ask what time our services were. He was in the area and needed a church to attend just for one Sunday.

My dad was in charge of handling the calls since he was basically the 'brains' of the pulpit committee. He told the man the times of our services, we'd be glad to have him, etc . . . BUT, my dad said, "we don't agree with PCC's stand for KJV only and we would request that you not bring this up at all." sure, sure the guy says, whatever.

My younger sister was in the teen Sunday school class at the time. This young man visited that class. When my sister came back from ss she told us, "He said PCC is NOT KJV only." she went on to say that during a 'share' time this man had gotten up and shared some stuff, and basically brought up things my dad has specifically asked him not to bring up.


The pulpit committee had some words with him, I think . . .

 

You should have asked the man if he knew who William Carey was. It was 11 years before he won one person to Christ where he went.

 

Amen

 

There is much emphasis in Hyles churches to produce quantity rather than quality. The problem is that quality is all that matters with respect to a person's eternal soul. There is a common story that goes around that an evangelist, Carl Hatch, claimed he led a man to the Lord while they were stopped at a red-light. The man he was witnessing to was in a separate car beside him, not riding with him. Not impossible I suppose, but most unlikely. This is the problem with the 1-2-3 pray after me crowd. Schaap claims that FB of Hammond baptized 15,000 people last year, and they are pushing for 25,000 this year. My question is "WHERE ARE ALL THE PEOPLE!!!" It's not numbers, but being faithful to give the gospel that counts.

Chad

 

Yeah. Somewhere the word "feed" got mixed up with "fleece" in some arenas too.

 

Sounds like typical saturation bombing.

And, BTW, since we have only had one adult (that we know of) saved in seven years of work here I guess that means I am not abiding in Christ.

This stuff is WAY to common with rivivalists.

Give 'em enough reasons they are sure to walk an aisle.

Amny years ago I heard a revivalist preach on "To him that knoweth to good and doeth it not to him it is sin." He asked, in rapid fire succession.

Is it good to lead 5 people a day to the Lord?
Is it good to pray 2 hours a day?
Is it good to read your Bible for an hour a day?
etc, etc.

He then screamed the verse above. "If these things are good to do and you are not doing them YOU ARE IN SIN AND NEED TO WALK THIS AISLE AND GET RIGHT WITH GOD!!!!!"

Boy, was I impressed

 

Fixated on our own feet--is a common malady of our day--beware the wolves dressed as sheep.

Verily, they have their reward; their millstones have not yet been delivered.

Will there be any of "The Faith" left when Jesus returns?

Yes !!!!

Selah,

Bro. James

 

An evangelist's work is done in the world not the church building. So if they are to exercise their gifts why don't they set up camp where the world lives and eats instead of the local church. Didn't Jesus go to the people in the world. I don't see any cases where Jesus invited the world to his home. He went to them.

 

People neeed to be reminded that leading five people per day to Christ will only reach 54,787 people in 30 years. But the person who disciples on the average of one person per year who is able to discipe others will reach 536,870,912 people in 30 years. Who reached more, the person who led five people to Christ each day or the one who discipled one person each year?

 

I am encouraged by your faithfulness. We need more like you.

 

Why have him in?? Usually evangelists like don't broadside you with new stuff. They are typically known for what they are going to say ahead of time. I am sure his position on this was well known.

 

The modern misnomer "evangelist" rears again its ugly head.

If churches today had any idea what the biblical evangelist was, every "evangelist" out there would be jobless in a week.

People have been duped into thinking that a gang of parachurch bullies knows more about a local assembly than does that church's own pastor. Cheap salvations drawn from overworked crowds damn many people to hell under a false sense of security. Divisive issues and para-biblical teaching (e.g. - "Bless God, a REAL American doesn't play soccer!!) confuse and corrupt the people in the pew.

Is it not tragic that although the Bible gives qualifications for two local church offices (pastor/elder/bishop and deacon), a group of people, who have established their own identity apart from Scripture, can claim authority over the Biblical leaders of churches?

 

Good to see you again rmp, and thanks for the input.
I agree that we usually think of as "evangelists" today are nothing more than Christian motivational speakers.

I agree that the true evangelist is out evangelising in the world, not "motivating" (or bullying) the sheep.

Thanks as well for the encouraging personal words fellas

 

We had a revival recently, in which we had a visiting evangelist preach.

However, before I invited him, I made it a point to visit another church where he was preaching and listened to what he had to say, Additionally, I spoke with him extensively before he was invited.

I personally think that it is part of a pastors job to examine carefully anyone who will preaching from the pulpit.