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The Fight Against Total Spiritual Inability

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Van

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Abraham's faith was credited to him as righteousness.
God says He will credit the faith of those who believe in Him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead. Romans 4:24.

Thus scripture is clear, God credits the faith of individuals who have faith like Abraham's faith. Thus some of the lost, many but not all, have the limited spiritual ability to seek God's favor through faith in the truth. Jesus said many will seek the narrow door that leads to eternal life, but will not find it. Consider the obviously bogus view that God would instill, in some, faith that does not allow them to find the narrow door. Absurd nonsense!!!
 
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The promises of God are based on faith, because our faith is accepted by grace, so that the promised blessings will be available to all the descendants, not only to the one who is of the Law, but also to the one who is of the faith like Abraham's, who is the father of us all. The promises of God's redemption plan are accessed through faith, provided our faith is credited as righteousness like the faith of Abraham. Those who claim the lost cannot put their trust and devotion upon Christ, must rewrite the entire New Testament, removing "his faith," "little faith," "your faith," "dead faith" and similar attributions of the faith of individuals.

Writes required by the bogus "T" doctrine:
Romans 4:5
Matthew 6:30, 8:26, 14:31, 16:8 and Luke 12:28
Matthew 9:22, 9:29, 15:28; Mark 5:34, 10:52; Luke 7:50, 8:25, 8:48, 17:19, 18:42, 22:32; Romans 1:8, 11:20: 1 Corinthians 2:5, 15:14, 15:17;
2 Corinthians 1:24, 10:15; Philippians 2:17; Colossians 1:4, 2:5, 2:7; 1 Thessalonians 1:8, 3:2, 3:5, 3:6, 3:7, 3:10; 2 Thessalonians 1:3; Philemon 1:6,
James 1:3, 2:1, 2:18; 1 Peter 1:7, 1:9, 1:21, 5:9 and 2 Peter 1:5
James 2:17 and 2:26.
 
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Abram did not “seek”God. God sought Abram, revealed Himself to him and used him to accomplish His purpose of redemption. Yes, Abram “responded” to God’s special revelation of Himself with faith, as an example for all that salvation is by faith. The general revelation of creation saves no one (Romans 1)

That is how it works, @Van, all throughout scripture. The “natural man” has completely rejected God and has no desire for the things of God. (1Corinthians 3) God reveals Himself to some through special revelation, supported in many places in John’s gospel.

In the Old Testament times it was through various and sundry ways: visions, burning bush, talking animals, angels etc… (Hebrews 1)

In the NT times it is through the revelation of His Son, but again, it is God who decides who you reveal the Son to (Matthew 11-13), through the gospel and work of God Holy Spirit.

You can never win your “fight” against spiritual inability because it is so clearly taught in scriptures, no matter how many times you attempt to rewrite passages (literally) to make them fit your man made philosophy, and then start thread after thread hoping to make it happen.

Please feel free to claim personal attacks, victimhood, “duh”, “taint so” false doctrine and on and on and on and on and on.

You can’t win the “fight” because you can’t change the truth of God’s Word no matter how hard you try.

Peace to you
 
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Van said:

The Fight Against Total Spiritual Inability​

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There's a fight? Where?

Why don't you call it Total Depravity like everyone else? Is it because you're a "virulent" anti-Calvinist and don't want to conform in any way to their terminology?
 
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Van

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canadyjd said:
Abram did not “seek”God. God sought Abram, revealed Himself to him and used him to accomplish His purpose of redemption. Yes, Abram “responded” to God’s special revelation of Himself with faith, as an example for all that salvation is by faith. The general revelation of creation saves no one (Romans 1)

That is how it works, @Van, all throughout scripture. The “natural man” has completely rejected God and has no desire for the things of God. (1Corinthians 3) God reveals Himself to some through special revelation, supported in many places in John’s gospel.

In the Old Testament times it was through various and sundry ways: visions, burning bush, talking animals, angels etc… (Hebrews 1)

In the NT times it is through the revelation of His Son, but again, it is God who decides who you reveal the Son to (Matthew 11-13), through the gospel and work of God Holy Spirit.

You can never win your “fight” against spiritual inability because it is so clearly taught in scriptures, no matter how many times you attempt to rewrite passages (literally) to make them fit your man made philosophy, and then start thread after thread hoping to make it happen.

Please feel free to claim personal attacks, victimhood, “duh”, “taint so” false doctrine and on and on and on and on and on.

You can’t win the “fight” because you can’t change the truth of God’s Word no matter how hard you try.

Peace to you
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All this verbiage to falsely claim the natural person never seeks God or places their trust (their faith) in God or His Christ.

Did anyone say or suggest God has not revealed Himself, His invisible attributes, to the lost? Nope, so the implied claim is just more obfuscation.
Next, "Irresistible grace" is claimed to be just revelation rather than what Calvinism claims, compulsion. I kid you not.

Next, [total] "spiritual inability" is claimed to be clearly taught, when limited spiritual inability is clearly taught, the lost cannot understand spiritual solid food (meat).
 
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Van

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kyredneck said:
There's a fight? Where?

Why don't you call it Total Depravity like everyone else? Is it because you're a "virulent" anti-Calvinist and don't want to conform in any way to their terminology?
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LOL, the majority of Baptists reject the TULIP as false doctrine, but the Calvinists claim everyone agrees. I kid you not.

From the Internet:​

The "T" in TULIP, which stands for Total Spiritual Inability (or Total Depravity), is a central tenet of Calvinism. It asserts that because of the Fall, humanity's entire being is corrupted and unable to initiate or cooperate with God's grace for salvation on their own. This means that individuals are not able to choose God, repent, or believe in the gospel without God's prior action of regeneration. ​

Note that the poster seeks to shift the topic to quibbling about nomenclature, thus obfuscating the truth that total spiritual inability was not caused by the fall, as shown by Luke 13:24 which says many natural persons will seek Christ, the narrow door, but not find it.
 
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