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Justification is Conditioned on Christ Alone

kyredneck

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We are justified "by His Blood," and faith is the key that opens that justification.

Rom. 5:9

"Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him."

That is the condition, Ken! There is no unconditional justification.

All you free willers ever do is unabashedly rob Him of His glory.

Scripture: of him are ye in Christ Jesus.

Free-willer: of me am I in Christ Jesus.
 

Charlie24

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We are justified "by His Blood," and faith is the key that opens that justification.

Rom. 5:9

"Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him."

That is the condition, Ken! There is no unconditional justification.

God does not restrict who can call on Him, He demands that all, everywhere come to repentance.

Acts 17:30

"And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:"
 

Charlie24

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God does not restrict who can call on Him, He demands that all, everywhere come to repentance.

Acts 17:30

"And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:"

If Election is true, why does God demand all men everywhere to repent, and then turn around and give them no chance to repent?

If you think you're saved because you count yourself as one of the elect, you better think again.

You had better go back to Cross and confirm your faith in Christ and be sure of your faith.
 

KenH

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If Election is true, why does God demand all men everywhere to repent, and then turn around and give them no chance to repent?

but now commandeth all men everywhere to repent; that is, he hath given orders, that the doctrine of repentance, as well as remission of sins, should be preached to all nations, to Gentiles as well as Jews; and that it becomes them to repent of their idolatries, and turn from their idols, and worship the one, only, living and true God: and though for many hundreds of years God had neglected them, and sent no messengers, nor messages to them, to acquaint them with his will, and to show them their follies and mistakes; yet now he had sent his apostles unto them, to lay before them their sins, and call them to repentance; and to stir them up to this, the apostle informs them of the future judgment in the following verse. Repentance being represented as a command, does not suppose it to be in the power of men, or contradict evangelical repentance, being the free grace gift of God, but only shows the need men stand in of it, and how necessary and requisite it is; and when it is said to be a command to all, this does not destroy its being a special blessing of the covenant of grace to some; but points out the sad condition that all men are in as sinners, and that without repentance they must perish: and indeed, all men are obliged to natural repentance for sin, though to all men the grace of evangelical repentance is not given:

- excerpt from John Gill's Bible commentary on Acts 17:30
 

Charlie24

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but now commandeth all men everywhere to repent; that is, he hath given orders, that the doctrine of repentance, as well as remission of sins, should be preached to all nations, to Gentiles as well as Jews; and that it becomes them to repent of their idolatries, and turn from their idols, and worship the one, only, living and true God: and though for many hundreds of years God had neglected them, and sent no messengers, nor messages to them, to acquaint them with his will, and to show them their follies and mistakes; yet now he had sent his apostles unto them, to lay before them their sins, and call them to repentance; and to stir them up to this, the apostle informs them of the future judgment in the following verse. Repentance being represented as a command, does not suppose it to be in the power of men, or contradict evangelical repentance, being the free grace gift of God, but only shows the need men stand in of it, and how necessary and requisite it is; and when it is said to be a command to all, this does not destroy its being a special blessing of the covenant of grace to some; but points out the sad condition that all men are in as sinners, and that without repentance they must perish: and indeed, all men are obliged to natural repentance for sin, though to all men the grace of evangelical repentance is not given:

- excerpt from John Gill's Bible commentary on Acts 17:30

Gill is dancing around the fire! There's no election here, and he's drawing a blank.

They are demanded to repent because that is the only way they can be saved.

God is calling all to repentance and offering all salvation.
 

kyredneck

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We rob Him of Glory?

Yes. Every time you use the big 'I'.

'I' chose God. 'I' accepted Christ. 'I' decided.


What kind of Glory do you give him, K?

To begin with, I take Him at His word.

Choosing you over some other guy, is that His glory?

26 For behold your calling, brethren, that not many wise after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: 27 but God chose the foolish things of the world, that he might put to shame them that are wise; and God chose the weak things of the world, that he might put to shame the things that are strong; 28 and the base things of the world, and the things that are despised, did God choose, yea [p]and the things that are not, that he might bring to nought the things that are: 29 that no flesh should glory before God. 30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who was made unto us wisdom from God, [q]and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption: 31 that, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord. 1 Cor 1
 
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