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Abeka homeschooling

Taitlynn!

New Member
Just saw this forum and wanted to talk about my experience as a homeschooled kid!
At first I did private school at my church using the Abeka curriculum (I would highly recommend this, it was by far the best out of private, home, and public school). I got to interact with kids and teachers, had rules to follow, and got a wonderful curriculum. Problem was that didn’t last forever, so me and my sister started homeschool. Still an absolutely amazing curriculum, but both of my parents worked full time. Don’t give your kids schoolwork, leave, never grade anything, and expect them to do it. Me and my sister rarely did the work. Am I still smarter than the kids in my public school? Yes. Would I be a lot smarter if I had a teacher? Yes. Did not having kids around me affect my emotional health? Yes.
PLEASE make sure your kid has a teacher and interaction with other kids. Homeschooling with two full time working parents and no guardian doesn’t work, shocker, I know. Also please use Abeka if you are able to, it is absolutely amazing!
 

Cathode

Well-Known Member
The most important thing a school needs to nurture is bullies. A bully is a great educator, but these days is a much maligned and marginalised creature. Today he sits idle, downcast and unemployed, when there is so much work around for him.
Bullies teach all the classes you can’t find on any curriculum, a good bully, is worth his weight in gold, yet today he harried and expelled from the nanny system.

A quality bully really challenges his students, and brings the best out of them, they bloom with resilience under his tutelage, they learn confidence and courage to stand up for themselves in the face of adversity.
A bully’s homework is all the dilemmas and moral quandaries he sets up and concentrates the mind to think strategically, in real world scenarios.
Graduation day is when you finally teach your Bully something. A Bully rounds off a classical education, preparing you for the real world, that’s your unwritten diploma.

I would like bullies contributions to be acknowledged. When bullies can at last get the recognition they deserve, with tears in their eyes, by being proud recipients of Bully of the year awards.
Bullies have a thankless task and I think it’s well past time for them to come out of shadows.

Welcome to the forum.
 

Some Rando

New Member
There are some excellent home-school programs.
Abeka is the one My wife and I use for all of our kids. It is incredible. I used it when I was a kid about 30 years ago, and it was......good.

I can tell you it has improved by leaps and bounds since I was a kid. It is incredible now. My little ones are home-schooled, and their program for home-schooling is truly top-notch. I absolutely would recommend it to anyone who asks.
 

Taitlynn!

New Member
The most important thing a school needs to nurture is bullies. A bully is a great educator, but these days is a much maligned and marginalised creature. Today he sits idle, downcast and unemployed, when there is so much work around for him.
Bullies teach all the classes you can’t find on any curriculum, a good bully, is worth his weight in gold, yet today he harried and expelled from the nanny system.

A quality bully really challenges his students, and brings the best out of them, they bloom with resilience under his tutelage, they learn confidence and courage to stand up for themselves in the face of adversity.
A bully’s homework is all the dilemmas and moral quandaries he sets up and concentrates the mind to think strategically, in real world scenarios.
Graduation day is when you finally teach your Bully something. A Bully rounds off a classical education, preparing you for the real world, that’s your unwritten diploma.

I would like bullies contributions to be acknowledged. When bullies can at last get the recognition they deserve, with tears in their eyes, by being proud recipients of Bully of the year awards.
Bullies have a thankless task and I think it’s well past time for them to come out of shadows.

Welcome to the forum.
Hm, although bullies are good in many ways I feel like you are taking it too far. I don’t think we should reward the behavior, or be that way ourselves, but the honesty of a bully and confrontation of an antagonist can indeed help people to grow.
 

Cathode

Well-Known Member
Hm, although bullies are good in many ways I feel like you are taking it too far. I don’t think we should reward the behavior, or be that way ourselves, but the honesty of a bully and confrontation of an antagonist can indeed help people to grow.

Many kids these days have built no resilience and are overly sensitive, they have to be coddled otherwise they don’t come back to work.
I’m in private enterprise, many times we are out on the raggedy edge and money is earned the hard way.
If kids can’t take a verbal tuning up because they are too slow or aren’t concentrating it costs money.
Country kids are good, they’ll be ready for work and work hard, and take tuning if they mess up, they won’t burst into a tantrum.
They’ll stay and learn and grow a thick skin and develop the natural virtues and character that was started long before.
Schools need to turn out functional resilient units, not little Lord Fauntleroys that shall not be spoken to that way.
 

Some Rando

New Member
Many kids these days have built no resilience and are overly sensitive, they have to be coddled otherwise they don’t come back to work.
I’m in private enterprise, many times we are out on the raggedy edge and money is earned the hard way.
If kids can’t take a verbal tuning up because they are too slow or aren’t concentrating it costs money.
Country kids are good, they’ll be ready for work and work hard, and take tuning if they mess up, they won’t burst into a tantrum.
They’ll stay and learn and grow a thick skin and develop the natural virtues and character that was started long before.
Schools need to turn out functional resilient units, not little Lord Fauntleroys that shall not be spoken to that way.
Whilst I agree that we have gone overboard with the "anti-bullying" schtick, bullies are not inherently good or necessary for positive child development. True bullying is sinful. I do not accept that sinning creates inherently positive results, specifically results that could not be gained any other way. Growth and positives can come in spite of sin, and God can use wickedness for positive purposes, but, children who torment other weaker children for exclusively evil and selfish purposes are not to be celebrated.
There are other, better ways for children to grow up with a little bit of grit; and it's more about parenting than anything else.

A lot of city kids grow up tough as well.
A lot of country kids simply become meth-heads.
 

Cathode

Well-Known Member
Whilst I agree that we have gone overboard with the "anti-bullying" schtick, bullies are not inherently good or necessary for positive child development. True bullying is sinful. I do not accept that sinning creates inherently positive results, specifically results that could not be gained any other way. Growth and positives can come in spite of sin, and God can use wickedness for positive purposes, but, children who torment other weaker children for exclusively evil and selfish purposes are not to be celebrated.
There are other, better ways for children to grow up with a little bit of grit; and it's more about parenting than anything else.

A lot of city kids grow up tough as well.
A lot of country kids simply become meth-heads.

I’m not suggesting Spartas Agoge, maybe just throw in some maladjusted kids a little on the spectrum, to stir things up a tad.
Those kids need more socialisation and the other kids need the growth and challenges of that interaction.
I don’t think maladjusted kids can be too culpable, they are maladjusted.
 

Cathode

Well-Known Member
A lot of city kids grow up tough as well.
A lot of country kids simply become meth-heads.

Well country kids here we can talk to as equals, they shoulder some incredible responsibilities.
I’ve explained the job sometimes and on coming back they have done it and done more besides. Their maturity is born of a thousand adversities and difficulties, they engage fully with the task at hand, they own it, they’ll push you out of the way to fix a problem. They already have many practical skills. It makes me laugh to see the difference.
 

Some Rando

New Member
Well country kids here we can talk to as equals, they shoulder some incredible responsibilities.
I’ve explained the job sometimes and on coming back they have done it and done more besides. Their maturity is born of a thousand adversities and difficulties, they engage fully with the task at hand, they own it, they’ll push you out of the way to fix a problem. They already have many practical skills. It makes me laugh to see the difference.
As a general rule, I'd say that observation likely holds. Country kids often grow up in more solid households, are more religious and are surrounded by folks with better values etc. Also, a more country setting is also more homogenous as a rule, and the urban form of homogeneity is ghettoization which is unhealthy. What is not the case, is that there are more bullies picking on country kids than a city kid. As a side to that, I do not think that an excessively metropolitan upbringing is particularly good for anybody. I don't think humanity is wired for hyper-urbanization and it has IMO negative effects on people both young and old; a lack of sense of community being one of them. Liberalism and kooky ideas are also centered in Metropolitan areas. Urbanites also don't tend to live in reality.

I'm not picking on country kids, I've struggled to raise my kids in a non-urban environment myself. I do take your point and tend to agree with it, I just don't ascribe the benefits to the presence of more high quality bullies.
 

Cathode

Well-Known Member
As a general rule, I'd say that observation likely holds. Country kids often grow up in more solid households, are more religious and are surrounded by folks with better values etc. Also, a more country setting is also more homogenous as a rule, and the urban form of homogeneity is ghettoization which is unhealthy. What is not the case, is that there are more bullies picking on country kids than a city kid. As a side to that, I do not think that an excessively metropolitan upbringing is particularly good for anybody. I don't think humanity is wired for hyper-urbanization and it has IMO negative effects on people both young and old; a lack of sense of community being one of them. Liberalism and kooky ideas are also centered in Metropolitan areas. Urbanites also don't tend to live in reality.

I'm not picking on country kids, I've struggled to raise my kids in a non-urban environment myself. I do take your point and tend to agree with it, I just don't ascribe the benefits to the presence of more high quality bullies.

Country kids face all the metaphorical bullies, the bully represents responsibility, adversity, bad weather, working problems through etc

Responsibility is placed on the country kids shoulders for caring for livestock, fixing windmills, bores, fences and gates. They are experts, with concrete, welding, fencing and fabrication of many kinds, they are forced to innovate.

Responsibility is the biggest bully, if you can get them to stage of facing and owning the problem, that is massive growth. People may help and come and go as they please, but in their minds they will stay and work to completion of the task, they own it, it’s theirs.

Put kids like that out in the work force and army.
 
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