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What Trump has done for evangelicals:

JonC

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Sad. But it makes sence.

Trump capitalized on traditional values, so the shift from proclaiming the gospel to endorcing a political candidate is beneficial to the GOP. Also, it fits in with his spiritual advisor, Paula White-Cain, who teaches prosperity theology.

But Trump did not do this to Evangelicals. They did it to themselves. He just capitalized on the fall.
 

Wesley Briggman

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Salty

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"His faith adviser, pastor Paula White-Cain, proclaimed that in his administration, faith “has been brought back to where it always belongs, and that is center.”"

Salty, do you consider Paula White-Cain to be a "conservative" Christian preacher?

(That question is an oxymoron. My understanding of conservative Christian doctrine is that it excludes women from being preachers.)
Depends on your definition of a conservative!
There are many evangelicals who believe in female pastors
(Not saying I agree - just making a statement of fact.)

Or should your question be "to be a Fundamentalist Christian preacher"?
 

atpollard

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Technically, as Baptists embracing “Separation of Church and State” (one of those distinctive thingies) … should we not be looking to ANY P.O.T.U.S. (including Trump) to do nothing for “evangelicals” except keep the hands of the Executive Branch off matters of religion in order that the CHURCH can do its ordained mission free of government interference?
 

atpollard

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Evangelicals (and other Christians) would be better served by looking to JESUS to energize them. Then whatever is happening in Washington would be irrelevant.

 

Salty

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Waiting to hear from Salty.
Again - it depends on what someone considers a conservative! I suppose she may be in most of her teaching
BUT, Biblically, she is not Biblical pastor!

You see, politically, some think I am not conservative, others think I am too conservative!
 

Cathode

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Again - it depends on what someone considers a conservative! I suppose she may be in most of her teaching
BUT, Biblically, she is not Biblical pastor!

You see, politically, some think I am not conservative, others think I am too conservative!

My father used to think that mixing politics with religion was a sardine milkshake.
 

Salty

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My father used to think that mixing politics with religion was a sardine milkshake.
my post had NOTHING to do with mixing politics and religion - I simply stated that terms such as liberal and conservative are variable. And variable terms apply to both religion and politics
 

Wesley Briggman

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Again - it depends on what someone considers a conservative! I suppose she may be in most of her teaching
BUT, Biblically, she is not Biblical pastor!

You see, politically, some think I am not conservative, others think I am too conservative!
Thanks for replying. We agree, she is not a Biblical pastor.
 

JesusFan

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"His faith adviser, pastor Paula White-Cain, proclaimed that in his administration, faith “has been brought back to where it always belongs, and that is center.”"

Salty, do you consider Paula White-Cain to be a "conservative" Christian preacher?

(That question is an oxymoron. My understanding of conservative Christian doctrine is that it excludes women from being preachers.)
Thought she was into word of faith heresy theology?
 

JesusFan

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Having never heard of "faith heresy theology", I did a web search - nothing! Tell me about it.
The Word of Faith movement, also known as "name it and claim it," is a controversial Christian movement that teaches that faith is a force that can be used to obtain health and prosperity by speaking desires into existence. Critics, including many within mainstream Christianity, consider it a heresy due to its distortion of biblical doctrines and its focus on material gain over spiritual growth.

Key Teachings and Criticisms:
  • Faith as a Force:
    The movement teaches that faith is a force or power that can be used to manipulate reality and bring about desired outcomes.

  • Prosperity Theology:
    It emphasizes material wealth and physical health as evidence of God's blessing and favor.

    • "Speaking Things Into Existence":
      Followers are encouraged to confess positive outcomes and declare their desires, believing this will cause them to manifest.
    • Distortion of Scripture:
      Critics argue that the movement takes verses out of context and misinterprets biblical teachings to support its claims.
    • Focus on Self:
      The movement is criticized for emphasizing personal desires and self-improvement rather than focusing on God's will.
    • Heresy:
      Many within Christianity consider the Word of Faith movement to be heretical due to its departure from established Christian doctrines and its potential to lead to spiritual harm.
Examples of Critics:
Origins:
Overall, the Word of Faith movement is a controversial and contested Christian movement with a core belief that faith can be used to control outcomes, especially in the areas of health and wealth. Critics argue that its teachings distort biblical truths and can lead people astray.

Chief advocates would include like of Haggin, Copeland, Hinn, Price
 
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