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What did Barnabas see?

JD731

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Acts 11:22 Then tidings of these things came unto the ears of the church which was in Jerusalem: and they sent forth Barnabas, that he should go as far as Antioch.

23 Who, when he came, and had seen the grace of God, was glad
, and exhorted them all, that with purpose of heart they would cleave unto the Lord.

What did Barnabas see?

A Few years ago I asked this question on a thread and no one ever gave an answer. This question raises other questions, one of which is that, given the time frame of this event, at least 10 years after the resurrection of Jesus Christ and the beginning of the Christian era, the church, the fellowship of believers, born again of the Spirit of Christ and thus becoming the sons of God, why hadn't Barnabas ever seen this before?

A follow up question that comes to mind in this historical narrative makes us ponder if this experience of the Jewish Christian Barnabas just after the apostle Peter had opened the door of faith to gentiles and had tarried in their house for two days as brothers was directly referencing this context. Acts 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

Another question worthy of an answer.

What was Barnabas looking at that he defined as the "grace of God?"

Any ideas, anyone?
 

Charlie24

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Acts 11:22 Then tidings of these things came unto the ears of the church which was in Jerusalem: and they sent forth Barnabas, that he should go as far as Antioch.

23 Who, when he came, and had seen the grace of God, was glad
, and exhorted them all, that with purpose of heart they would cleave unto the Lord.

What did Barnabas see?

A Few years ago I asked this question on a thread and no one ever gave an answer. This question raises other questions, one of which is that, given the time frame of this event, at least 10 years after the resurrection of Jesus Christ and the beginning of the Christian era, the church, the fellowship of believers, born again of the Spirit of Christ and thus becoming the sons of God, why hadn't Barnabas ever seen this before?

A follow up question that comes to mind in this historical narrative makes us ponder if this experience of the Jewish Christian Barnabas just after the apostle Peter had opened the door of faith to gentiles and had tarried in their house for two days as brothers was directly referencing this context. Acts 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

Another question worthy of an answer.

What was Barnabas looking at that he defined as the "grace of God?"

Any ideas, anyone?

Barnabas seen in Antioch the Grace of God, he seen changed lives and the effects of the Grace of God.
 

Charlie24

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Thanks C24. Barnabas saw "the" grace of God. Is there a contextual reason to be more specific of what Barnabas saw?

In Acts 11 the Church at Jerusalem had just discovered that Gentiles could be saved. This was the mystery Paul spoke of that was hidden from man, that God has chosen the Gentiles for salvation. Up to this point the Jews believed only a Jew could be saved.

There were some who went about preaching the Word throughout Syria, but only to the Jews. In the crowd were many Gentiles and they believed the preaching. When word got back to the Church at Jerusalem, they sent Barnabas, a man filled with the Holy Spirit, to investigate what was happening.

When Barnabas came he seen the effects of the preached Word and the Gentiles believing. He seen the changed lives and exhorted them to follow Christ and be led by the Holy Spirit, he explained to them what it means to believe in Christ, and many people we added to the Lord that day.
 

MrW

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Acts 11:22 Then tidings of these things came unto the ears of the church which was in Jerusalem: and they sent forth Barnabas, that he should go as far as Antioch.

23 Who, when he came, and had seen the grace of God, was glad
, and exhorted them all, that with purpose of heart they would cleave unto the Lord.

What did Barnabas see?

A Few years ago I asked this question on a thread and no one ever gave an answer. This question raises other questions, one of which is that, given the time frame of this event, at least 10 years after the resurrection of Jesus Christ and the beginning of the Christian era, the church, the fellowship of believers, born again of the Spirit of Christ and thus becoming the sons of God, why hadn't Barnabas ever seen this before?

A follow up question that comes to mind in this historical narrative makes us ponder if this experience of the Jewish Christian Barnabas just after the apostle Peter had opened the door of faith to gentiles and had tarried in their house for two days as brothers was directly referencing this context. Acts 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

Another question worthy of an answer.

What was Barnabas looking at that he defined as the "grace of God?"

Any ideas, anyone?
He saw Jews and Gentiles worshiping God together. In other words, he saw the results in action of God's grace to all mankind.
 

JD731

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In Acts 11 the Church at Jerusalem had just discovered that Gentiles could be saved. This was the mystery Paul spoke of that was hidden from man, that God has chosen the Gentiles for salvation. Up to this point the Jews believed only a Jew could be saved.

There were some who went about preaching the Word throughout Syria, but only to the Jews. In the crowd were many Gentiles and they believed the preaching. When word got back to the Church at Jerusalem, they sent Barnabas, a man filled with the Holy Spirit, to investigate what was happening.

When Barnabas came he seen the effects of the preached Word and the Gentiles believing. He seen the changed lives and exhorted them to follow Christ and be led by the Holy Spirit, he explained to them what it means to believe in Christ, and many people we added to the Lord that day.
Amen, C24, I think you are right but it does cause me to ask another question. If the Jews had been getting saved and become Christians since day 1 of the resurrection of Jesus Christ, why wasn't their conversion referred to as "the grace of God?" Another way of framing the same question is why is the grace of God defined in the context of gentiles (non Jews) being brought into the fellowship of the church? I reference this statement of Peter in the Jerusalem council when the apostles met to determine what responsibility the saved gentiles, who had been the object of the first missionary journey efforts of Paul and Barnabas in the region of Asia Minor, had to the Mosaic Law.

Acts 15:6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.

7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.

8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
12 Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them.

Paul and Barnabas, upon arriving back at Antioch, had reported this to the sending church, who were mostly Jewish Christians when they had left.

Acts 14:27
And when they were come, and had gathered the church together, they rehearsed all that God had done with them, and how he had opened the door of faith unto the Gentiles.

Peter had opened the door of faith to gentiles at the home of Cornelius in Acts 10. This is the grace of God. Both Jews and gentiles in the same fellowship together as brothers.
 

Charlie24

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Amen, C24, I think you are right but it does cause me to ask another question. If the Jews had been getting saved and become Christians since day 1 of the resurrection of Jesus Christ, why wasn't their conversion referred to as "the grace of God?" Another way of framing the same question is why is the grace of God defined in the context of gentiles (non Jews) being brought into the fellowship of the church? I reference this statement of Peter in the Jerusalem council when the apostles met to determine what responsibility the saved gentiles, who had been the object of the first missionary journey efforts of Paul and Barnabas in the region of Asia Minor, had to the Mosaic Law.

Acts 15:6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.

7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.

8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
12 Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them.

Paul and Barnabas, upon arriving back at Antioch, had reported this to the sending church, who were mostly Jewish Christians when they had left.

Acts 14:27
And when they were come, and had gathered the church together, they rehearsed all that God had done with them, and how he had opened the door of faith unto the Gentiles.

Peter had opened the door of faith to gentiles at the home of Cornelius in Acts 10. This is the grace of God. Both Jews and gentiles in the same fellowship together as brothers.

I see it as the Grace of God extended to all of mankind. It was always God's intention for all of humanity to have the opportunity to be saved.

But it was necessary, as Paul said, that salvation first be offered to the Jews.

It was Israel, the Jews, that God chose to take Christ to the world (the Gentiles).
 

JD731

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I see it as the Grace of God extended to all of mankind. It was always God's intention for all of humanity to have the opportunity to be saved.

But it was necessary, as Paul said, that salvation first be offered to the Jews.

It was Israel, the Jews, that God chose to take Christ to the world (the Gentiles).
Would to God all would understand this. Salvation is of the Jews, Jesus said in John 4 to the Samaritan woman.

Would you accept the fact that God dealt with the Jews under a different principle of divine dealing until they rejected his salvation (the Spirit) nationally in Acts 7 and this gave the opportunity for gentiles to be included in the church of Jesus Christ along with the few Jews who believed the gospel while God gave a national and judicial blindness to the nation? Gentiles will be saved after the church is in heaven and the Jewish nation will likewise be saved, every one of them, as a separate entity and nation at a given period in history?

He dealt with Jews under the principle of promise, aiming to keep his promises to them.
He dealt with the gentiles under the principle of grace, having made no promises to us.

After the rejection by the Jews he dealt with all under the principle of grace.
 
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JD731

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Under the OT economy of God the offices that were to be held by Jesus Christ were typified by three men. They were profit, priest, and King. Those who were the types were Moses, Aaron, and David. When Jesus was on the earth he was the perfect prophet. He is at this present time on the throne of his Father making intercession for us, the perfect priest. When he takes the throne of David he will be the perfect King.

I want to present to the audience two of his prophesies in parables that are instructive to my title above, Jesus gave both of these parables during the last days of his life on earth. The fulfillment has been witnessed by every man of this church age whether they will admit it or not. A prophesy is usually from the time it is made known until the time it is fulfilled.

Here is the first parable.

Luke 14:14-24

15 And when one of them that sat at meat with him heard these things, he said unto him, Blessed is he that shall eat bread in the kingdom of God.
16 Then said he unto him, A certain man made a great supper, and bade many:
17 And sent his servant at supper time to say to them that were bidden, Come; for all things are now ready.
18 And they all with one consent began to make excuse. The first said unto him, I have bought a piece of ground, and I must needs go and see it: I pray thee have me excused.
19 And another said, I have bought five yoke of oxen, and I go to prove them: I pray thee have me excused.
20 And another said, I have married a wife, and therefore I cannot come.
21 So that servant came, and shewed his lord these things. Then the master of the house being angry said to his servant, Go out quickly into the streets and lanes of the city, and bring in hither the poor, and the maimed, and the halt, and the blind.
22 And the servant said, Lord, it is done as thou hast commanded, and yet there is room.
23 And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled.
24 For I say unto you, That none of those men which were bidden shall taste of my


Luke 13:6-9

6 He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none.
7 Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground?
8 And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it:
9 And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.

These parables are prophesies of this age when Jesus Christ had finished his work and it was supper time. Later we find out it is the marriage supper. He sent his heralds out to bid them to come and in Acts 7 they would not come. But he wanted his house to be filled with guests so he began inviting others til his house was full. A house is a family.
 

MrW

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Amen, C24, I think you are right but it does cause me to ask another question. If the Jews had been getting saved and become Christians since day 1 of the resurrection of Jesus Christ, why wasn't their conversion referred to as "the grace of God?" Another way of framing the same question is why is the grace of God defined in the context of gentiles (non Jews) being brought into the fellowship of the church? I reference this statement of Peter in the Jerusalem council when the apostles met to determine what responsibility the saved gentiles, who had been the object of the first missionary journey efforts of Paul and Barnabas in the region of Asia Minor, had to the Mosaic Law.

Acts 15:6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.

7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.

8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
12 Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them.

Paul and Barnabas, upon arriving back at Antioch, had reported this to the sending church, who were mostly Jewish Christians when they had left.

Acts 14:27
And when they were come, and had gathered the church together, they rehearsed all that God had done with them, and how he had opened the door of faith unto the Gentiles.

Peter had opened the door of faith to gentiles at the home of Cornelius in Acts 10. This is the grace of God. Both Jews and gentiles in the same fellowship together as brothers.
I think it was a fair number of years before Gentiles started receiving and believing on the Lord Jesus. It seems from Scripture it took a while for Paul and Peter to understand God intended salvation to go beyond the Jews and Israel.
 

MrW

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Just a note: Prophesy is a verb. Prophecy is a noun. A prophet prophesies prophecies. And they are pronounced differently. :)
 

JD731

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Just a note: Prophesy is a verb. Prophecy is a noun. A prophet prophesies prophecies. And they are pronounced differently. :)
Exactly! One, such as myself should be as careful writing as he is reading and be precise in both. I will try to do better but knowing my tendencies it is likely I will make other goofs without really trying. Thanks.
 

JD731

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Exactly! One, such as myself should be as careful writing as he is reading and be precise in both. I will try to do better but knowing my tendencies it is likely I will make other goofs without really trying. Thanks.
It is instructive to note that in the four gospel accounts, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, there are 89 chapters that chronicles the earthly life, beginning to ending, of Jesus Christ. Of those 89 chapters exactly one third of them, 29 chapters, are concerned with the last 8 days of the life of our Lord Jesus Christ on earth. He has already been condemned to death by the national rulers of Judah and he has already responded by delaying his kingdom and national rule over Israel by necessity (they would not receive him), followed by his pronouncing a curse on his own generation whose calling it was to receive him on behalf of his chosen people as the promised Messiah and Prince of Israel.

Here are two verses that proves what I am saying in the context that I have outlined from the gospel of the King, Matthew.

Mt 12:14 ¶ Then the Pharisees went out, and held a council against him, how they might destroy him.

Mt 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world (Aion = age), neither in the world to come.


Our Lord is speaking about two distinct ages here divided by his cross and resurrection..
"This age" is the current age that he was ministering in during his time.
That age ended at this point: Joh 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

The age to come is this age since the resurrection while the King is absent physically. The political rulers of the nation gave voice to the people and the curse is that the nation would not be saved during this time, not that individuals would not. The nation was reckoned dead by God and it's presence passed off the scene and it was unseen for nearly two thousand years. This was by a burial in the graveyard of the nations of the world in 70 AD, the end of the generation of Jesus Christ, see Mt 1:1 & Ps 90:10) During this time both the Messiah of Israel and the body of Israel were absent the land for all this long time. The only hope for the nation Israel is a resurrection from the dead and the possession of the Holy Spirit to give them eternal life. That is in their future but every one of them left alive must be saved. Therefore there is a great baptism of fire awaiting them to purge and cleanse them. (see this future fire baptism in Mt 3:7-12)

Ro 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.
15 For if the casting away of them (Israel) be the reconciling of the world (kosmos), what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?

Life from the dead is a resurrection.

I have not forgotten my question, "what did Barnabas see" but there are things one must know and believe to understand why God the Father replaced nearly all of those of Israel by breaking off the branches and grafting in the gentile tree and then naming this act with the title "THE GRACE OF GOD." I will pursue it further in a future post.

Meanwhile, ponder an answer to this question; why did the apostles and elders whom Jesus chose as his kingdom rulers, after the pattern established by the Moses economy, in Matthew 10 and in Luke 10 have no understanding of the sacrificial death and resurrection of Jesus Christ after his entire earthly ministry and believed instead that Jesus had come to establish his earthly kingdom? According to the statement by Luke.

Lu 19:11 ¶ And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear.

This is the same day as is recorded in John 12:1.

12 He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.
13 And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.
14 But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.

Is there any possibility that Jesus Christ really did preach the gospel of the kingdom to Israel only and present himself as the Messiah of Israel and the Son of God like the NT says? Isn't this gospel of the kingdom fundamental to all prophecy going forward? What is the explanation for all the apostles and elders who preached with him but who abandoned him after he was put to death by the Jews and then later refused to believe that he was resurrected bodily from the dead when told?


From this point in the parable, this is future for us living today

15 And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading.
16 Then came the first, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained ten pounds.
17 And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities.
18 And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds.
19 And he said likewise to him, Be thou also over five cities.
20 And another came, saying, Lord, behold, here is thy pound, which I have kept laid up in a napkin:
21 For I feared thee, because thou art an austere man: thou takest up that thou layedst not down, and reapest that thou didst not sow.
22 And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow:
23 Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury?
24 And he said unto them that stood by, Take from him the pound, and give it to him that hath ten pounds.
25 (And they said unto him, Lord, he hath ten pounds)
26 For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him.
27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
28 ¶ And when he had thus spoken, he went before, ascending up to Jerusalem.

When Jesus comes again to establish his rule over the earth then every citizen of that kingdom will have been saved at it's beginning. (when Jesus ascends up to Jerusalem). Jesus said in John 3 that one cannot enter his kingdom without first being born again. Is that you?

Note: One should be sure they are believing God and his words .
 
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