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Studying John 1:12-13

Van

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John 1:12-13 NASB

But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name, who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of a man, but of God.

Here is my interpretation:

"As many as received Him" refers to "those who believe in His (Christ's) name. Thus they accepted as truth their understanding of gospel of Christ. But in addition, the determination that they had "received Him," and not another gospel, indicates God's acceptance of their understanding and commitment to Christ.

"He gave the right to become" refers to God crediting the person's faith as righteousness based on His determination. Only those whose faith He credits as righteousness are given "right" to become born anew children of God.

This spiritual rebirth was not physical rebirth, of blood, and was not initiated by human lust or will, but by God alone.

The close coupling of receiving the right to become, and being born by the will of God indicates a rapid sequence of events, with no discernible delay between receiving the right (under the New Covenant) and becoming a spiritual child of God.

Thus, when 2 Thessalonians 2:13 says God chooses individuals for salvation, the idea is God chooses them by transferring them spiritually into Christ. That is why the verse could be translated as God choosing individuals "into salvation." The transfer is presented in the phrase "through sanctification by the Spirit" and refers to their human spirit being set apart, sanctified, into the spiritual body of Christ.

Note the clear sequence of actions, first a person becomes aware of God's revelation of the gospel of Christ, i.e. the "name of Jesus Christ" and then receives Him, which refers to those who believe in His name. Thus the first human action is lost person comes to put their faith, as worthless as it may be, in what he or she believes about Christ, such as Jesus is God incarnate, born of a virgin, lived a sinless life, died as a sinless sacrifice for the whole of humanity, and arose from the dead, demonstrating His promises are true.

Next, the person is given the right to become a child of God. This action is God crediting the lost person's faith as righteousness.

Lastly, having given the person the right to become a child of God, God causes the person to be spiritually born anew, becoming a new creation, a child of God by setting the person apart, which is the action of transferring their human spirit into the spiritual body of Christ. Then they are made alive, regenerated, together with Christ.
 
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Van

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Because some believers have not learned or even heard that our faith must be credited by God before we are chosen individually for salvation during our physical lives, many posters avoid the issue and instead post, "but what about this or that" subject change questions.

So the issues they should confront are these:

1) Does God credit the faith of those He determines do NOT believe God raised Christ from the dead?
2) What purpose does crediting a person's faith as righteousness serve?
3) Would God choose an individual for salvation through or on the basis of faith in the truth that God does not credit as righteousness?

Just read Romans 4:1-5 and see if those God determines believe on or upon Christ have their faith credited as righteousness. Credited faith, rather than innately sufficient faith, is according to grace and not works.​
 

JesusFan

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Because some believers have not learned or even heard that our faith must be credited by God before we are chosen individually for salvation during our physical lives, many posters avoid the issue and instead post, "but what about this or that" subject change questions.

So the issues they should confront are these:


1) Does God credit the faith of those He determines do NOT believe God raised Christ from the dead?

2) What purpose does crediting a person's faith as righteousness serve?

3) Would God choose an individual for salvation through or on the basis of faith in the truth that God does not credit as righteousness?


Just read Romans 4:1-5 and see if those God determines believe on or upon Christ have their faith credited as righteousness. Credited faith, rather than innately sufficient faith, is according to grace and not works.

God grants to his own saving faith, and regenerates them unto salvation
 

Van

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God grants to his own saving faith, and regenerates them unto salvation
On and on, false claim after false claim is posted. If saving faith is supernaturally given to some, why do they reject it and turn to false doctrines?

No answer will be forthcoming, only yet another change of subject by those endeavoring to hide God's truth.

Because some believers have not learned or even heard that our faith must be credited by God before we are chosen individually for salvation during our physical lives, many posters avoid the issue and instead post, "but what about this or that" subject change questions.

So the issues they should confront are these:

1) Does God credit the faith of those He determines do NOT believe God raised Christ from the dead?

2) What purpose does crediting a person's faith as righteousness serve?

3) Would God choose an individual for salvation through or on the basis of faith in the truth that God does not credit as righteousness?

Just read Romans 4:1-5 and see if those God determines believe on or upon Christ have their faith credited as righteousness. Credited faith, rather than innately sufficient faith, is according to grace and not works.
 

JesusFan

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On and on, false claim after false claim is posted. If saving faith is supernaturally given to some, why do they reject it and turn to false doctrines?

No answer will be forthcoming, only yet another change of subject by those endeavoring to hide God's truth.

Because some believers have not learned or even heard that our faith must be credited by God before we are chosen individually for salvation during our physical lives, many posters avoid the issue and instead post, "but what about this or that" subject change questions.

So the issues they should confront are these:



1) Does God credit the faith of those He determines do NOT believe God raised Christ from the dead?
2) What purpose does crediting a person's faith as righteousness serve?

3) Would God choose an individual for salvation through or on the basis of faith in the truth that God does not credit as righteousness?

Just read Romans 4:1-5 and see if those God determines believe on or upon Christ have their faith credited as righteousness. Credited faith, rather than innately sufficient faith, is according to grace and not works.
If our saving faith is a free gift of grace of God towards us, what merit can we get from using it?
 

Van

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If our saving faith is a free gift of grace of God towards us, what merit can we get from using it?
God crediting our faith is a free gift of grace to those whose faith He chooses to credit. Your Calvinism denies Romans 4:16, our faith when credited is in accordance with grace, not works.
 
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