@Charlie24
I am missing something in understanding your position.
As
@DaveXR650 (or, maybe it was one of his teammates) pointed out several times, I am not intelligent. I have not objected to that charge. I am not a smart man, but I know what love is (borrowing from Forrest Gump as I am in Savannah GA today).
So I am going to turn our disagreement into a story. Maybe it will help me understand what I am missing of your view.
My Story
Wicked Bob has a lot of sin. He is enslaved, a prisoner to a master. His master has rights over him because of his sin. And his master will kill him, his sin producing his death. He will face the same fate as his master. His master has a right over the sons of Adam because if their sin.
God became a human being, the "Son of Adam" to rescue the sons of Adam. He bore Adam's sins and submitted Himself to their fate. Their master killed Him, as it is appointed to all man to die. But God judged Him as righteous. He died in the body and was made alive. The first Adam was made a living soul, the Second a life giving Spirit.
Wicked Bob believes. Jesus gives him life, puts His own spirit in Bob. This makes Good Bob.
Good Bob wrestles with and kills Wicked Bob daily. Over time Good Bob increases and Wicked Bob decreases. Christ's blood cleanses from all unrighteous.
One day Bob dies. For some reason they out "Robert" on his tombstone.
God raises Good Bob. Good Bob looks around and Wicked Bob is gone. God looks at Good Bob. Good Bob has never committed a sin. Good Bob is righteous. He is in the image of God's Son who is the Firstborn with Good Bob as His brother.
Your Story
Wicked Bob has a lot of sins. God puts those sins on Jesus and punished Jesus for Wicked Bob's sins.
This pays Wicked Bob's sin debt.
What I do not get.....
Wicked Bob now has his sin debt paid in full. But Wicked Bob still cannot enter God's kingdom. Although his sin debt has been collected, Wicked Bob is still wicked. Although Wicked Bob's bill has been paid God's wrath is still on Wicked Bob.
Interesting story you have there, Jon!
It reminds me of the main theme in a Book I have sitting here on my desk, the One that says Holy Bible.
Wicked Bob was bought with a price that he had no control of, he was bought by mercy and grace, something he didn't deserve, but God had a special interest in Bob being His greatest creation. Bob is worth more to God that all of His other creations put together.
Bob couldn't do anything about his great grandfather Adam using his free will to disobey God, and God in His mercy recognizes this, but at the same time the Law of Sin and Death must be upheld or God is a liar. That Law was in effect when He said to Adam, "the day you eat of this tree you shall surly die."
Before the foundation of the world God knew all of this would sit in Bob's lap. Bob through no fault of his own is now in as desperate situation with sin inevitable inherited from his great grandfather, Adam. "Whereby one man has sinned, all have sinned."
The great mistake of Calvin was his view of God's sovereignty. There are some things God cannot do according to the Laws He created before the foundation of the world. He is bound to them, or found a liar.
Through man's God-given gift of free will, man has completely destroyed himself and must be destroyed according to God's Law, UNLESS, God can find a way around the very Laws He placed into existence.
Is man really worth all the trouble and sacrifice that God must make to preserve His greatest creation? Obviously it is worth it to Him! So in His great mercy and grace that no man can understand, He devised a plan for "whosoever will" to survive this terrible thing man has brought on all of God's creation, the curse of sin.
Satan lied to man and brought out the lust of man who has free will to choose, but the man made the ultimate choice to seek after that lust by his own free will. Man is now a slave and is owned by Satan.
Did Satan have anything to do with the sacrifice God would make to preserve "whosoever will?" I think not!
The price God would pay in His plan was the offering up to the death of His innocent Son as a sacrifice for our sins. But there's a condition that must be met by God in order to benefit from this sacrifice. We must believe in the sacrifice, specifically what Paul told us we must believe.
For Bob who has chosen to believe in this sacrifice, he is in debt to God for the great sacrifice God has offered. All the sins of the world, past present, and future, including Bob's have been place on God's great sacrifice, and Bob has benefited greatly from this sacrifice by believing in it.
Bob is now declared righteous before God, washed in the Blood of the Lamb, all his sins, past, present and future have been placed on the Great Sacrifice. His future sins cannot be ignored or tossed to the side, God's Law forbids it. The Law of Sin and Death still abides on sin.
But the wrath of God on such sin of the believer is pardoned by His grace through faith, His plan of the "just for the unjust." All of it being placed on the innocent Sacrifice that never sinned, but was "made sin for us."
Paul tells us in Rom. 6, shall we continue to sin that grace may abound, God forbid, says Paul,
The Grace of God to forgive the sins of the Believer is not a license to sin. Those sins are not ignored they are placed on Christ by Law through His becoming sin for us.
