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Death penalty

Some Rando

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35 years in prison gives 35 years for repentance and salvation.
It gives them 35 years to become ever more hardened in sin.
Death gives no more chance for repentance or salvation.
Fear does, and you are removing fear from the equation.
All Christians should appreciate that argument.
I do.
But, I'm adult enough to know it's a stupid one.

Also, my greatest concern is NOT the salvation of baby-rapers....it's the protection of innocent children.
 

JPPT1974

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There was a couple in the 1950's who got electrocuted for espionage and treason. For spying on the then Soviet Union. It was the only time someone much less a couple with two sons got executed.
The federal judge who sentenced them says that their "crimes were as worse as murder."
Putting like the A bomb in the enemy's hands. Prison or life imprisonment would had been OK knowing national security was on the line.
But in a sense the death penalty was just so harsh when the Cold War and Communism hysteria was going on.
 

canadyjd

Well-Known Member
I disagree.
You follow a modernist liberal philosophy which denies Original Sin and teaches a Tabula Rosa doctrine where men are a mere "blank-slate" no different from another, and their situation will dictate whether or not they are felons.
It is a dangerous philosophy which effects your Theology.
I have no idea how you came to that conclusion. You are assuming things about me that simply are not true.

When it comes to scripture, I’m one of the most conservative folks on this board.

God is authorized to show mercy.
You aren't.
Wow!!! You are so off base in this.

Jesus commanded us to show mercy toward others as God showed mercy to us. Forgive others as you have been forgiven. How can you not know that?

God commanded us in 1 Timothy to demonstrate mercy toward sinners in the same way He showed mercy to Paul the murderer of Christians.
I didn't know you thought you were God.
Outrageous cowpie

Duh. It's not the Government's job to "show mercy".
And, Duh, as Christians, it’s not our job to support killing people, no matter the crime.
…..There isn't and nowhere does it teach that Canady should spend his life "showing mercy" to baby-rapists…..
You are getting very personal.

My job is to follow the commands of my Lord as found in scripture. You follow Adam Smith. I’ll follow Jesus, thank you very much.

You are a very emotional, angry person. Exactly the kind of person that should never sit on a jury and hear these kinds of cases.

Are you capable of having a civil discussion on this topic? If not, just don’t respond to my posts.

Peace to you
 

canadyjd

Well-Known Member
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1.) All forms of rape. (<-I'd require it by law not make it optional)
2.) Grand Larceny
3.) Treason (already actually the case)
4.) Selling schedule 1 narcotics i.e. cocaine, chrystal-meth, crack
5.) Certain forms of involuntary manslaughter such as Drunken vehicular homicide....
6.) Certain forms of 2nd degree murder such as see above, or negligent manslaugher.
Just remember this. According to scripture, one day, being a Christian is going to be punishable by the death penalty.

You just keep adding, setting a precedent, to just kill everyone that breaks the law.

They are already arresting Christians in England for silently praying across the street from abortion clinics.

The persecution is coming, and professing Christians are in full support for laying the foundation for the persecution.

Peace to you
 

Salty

20,000 Posts Club
Administrator
You seem to be a man who is passionate about protecting baby-rapists.
How does that suit you?
Rando - you are going out of bounds! -

Does the NT require the Death Penalty -- NO
Does the NT prohibit the Death Penalty -- NO

Many have been led to the Lord while in prison Check this link:

Remember Chuck Colson - Due his prison time - he founded Prison Fellowship
 
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Some Rando

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Just remember this. According to scripture, one day, being a Christian is going to be punishable by the death penalty.
I know that, and it's irrelevant.
You just keep adding, setting a precedent, to just kill everyone that breaks the law.
No, only certain Capital crimes.
I named about six.
No one said anything about Jaywalking.
They are already arresting Christians in England for silently praying across the street from abortion clinics.
I know.
England is a nation which has abolished the Death Penalty.
The persecution is coming.
Yes. So what?
 
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Some Rando

Active Member
Does the NT require the Death Penalty -- NO
Does the NT prohibit the Death Penalty -- NO
Correct.
Some would have us believe. that it does prohibit it, and they would be wrong.
Also, there's another 2/3 of the Bible you might be ignoring.
Many have been led to the Lord while in prison Check this link:

Remember Chuck Colson - Due his prison time - he founded Prison Fellowship
Chuck Colson is irrelevant to this discussion.
Why are you repeating the obvious?

Some victims of murder never get the chance to repent and come to Christ because murderers snuffed out their life too soon.
Why are you focusing on the well-being of the criminal and not the victims?

The victims aren't "coming to Christ" because they are dead.
 

Some Rando

Active Member
I have no idea how you came to that conclusion. You are assuming things about me that simply are not true.
When it comes to this topic, you are.
When it comes to scripture, I’m one of the most conservative folks on this board.
I know.
On this topic, strangely, you are in bed with leftist loons. I have no idea why.
Jesus commanded us to show mercy toward others as God showed mercy to us. Forgive others as you have been forgiven. How can you not know that?
That is of course, correct.
It is incumbent upon us to show mercy to others.
It is not the government's job to show mercy.
Next time you get a speeding ticket, go to court and make the argument to the judge that Jesus commands him to show mercy to you.
God commanded us in 1 Timothy to demonstrate mercy toward sinners in the same way He showed mercy to Paul the murderer of Christians.
Yup.
So, murderers should be spared life imprisonment for crimes then?
You just said we should "show mercy" to them right?
Should we set them all free?
Imprisoning people isn't "showing mercy".
 

Some Rando

Active Member
Weird thing is Christians demand a punishment (death) today when it would not have been even considered in the Old Teatsment.
Umm.
In the Old Testament rape was absolutely punishable by death. There were protections against false accusation. (those are the city/cry for help exceptions etc.)
It is not unprecedented at all.
 

Salty

20,000 Posts Club
Administrator
This thread has gotten out of hand - name calling, ect

Do not start a similar thread for 20 days
 
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