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Drifting to war.

“ I’ve been waiting for something to happen
For a week or a month or a year
With the blood in the ink of the headlines
And the sound of the crowd in my ears
You might ask what it takes to remember
When you know that you’ve seen it before
Where a government lies to a people
And a country is drifting to war
And there’s a shadow on the faces
Of the men who send the guns
To the wars that are fought in the places
Where there business interests run
On the talk shows and the TV
You hear one thing again and again
How the USA stands for freedom
And we come to the side of a friend
But who are the ones we call our friends
These government s killing their own
Or the people who finally can’t take anymore
And they pick up a gun, or a brick or a stone
There are lives in the balance
There are people under fire
There are children at the cannons
And there is blood on the wire
There’s a shadow on the faces
Of the men who fan the flames
Of the wars that are fought in places
Where we can’t even say the names
They sell us the president the same way
They sell us our clothes and our cars
They sell us everything from youth to religion
The same time they sell us our wars
I want to know who the men in the shadows are
I want to hear someone asking them why
They can be counted on to tell us who our enemies are
But their never the ones to fight or to die
And there are lives in the balance
There are people under fire
There are children at the cannons
And there is blood on the wire”
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
“ I’ve been waiting for something to happen
For a week or a month or a year
With the blood in the ink of the headlines
And the sound of the crowd in my ears
You might ask what it takes to remember
When you know that you’ve seen it before
Where a government lies to a people
And a country is drifting to war
And there’s a shadow on the faces
Of the men who send the guns
To the wars that are fought in the places
Where there business interests run
On the talk shows and the TV
You hear one thing again and again
How the USA stands for freedom
And we come to the side of a friend
But who are the ones we call our friends
These government s killing their own
Or the people who finally can’t take anymore
And they pick up a gun, or a brick or a stone
There are lives in the balance
There are people under fire
There are children at the cannons
And there is blood on the wire
There’s a shadow on the faces
Of the men who fan the flames
Of the wars that are fought in places
Where we can’t even say the names
They sell us the president the same way
They sell us our clothes and our cars
They sell us everything from youth to religion
The same time they sell us our wars
I want to know who the men in the shadows are
I want to hear someone asking them why
They can be counted on to tell us who our enemies are
But their never the ones to fight or to die
And there are lives in the balance
There are people under fire
There are children at the cannons
And there is blood on the wire”

Was it not your leader that said there would be a WW3 is he not the one that says he can send troops into another country and no one can stop him.

We are being lead into a war by those that will not have to pay the price but will become rich on the blood of others.
 
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Van

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
The opening post did not mention "Lives in the Balance" by Jason Browne.

The second post claimed Mr. Trump was leading us into war for personal enrichment, a Marxist talking point. You can count on the Dark Side always charging the "peacemakers" with being warmongers.

If anyone believes in the concept of peace through strength, then upping our defense budget, and strengthening our alliances is the opposite of "drifting into war." Allowing invaders to prosper is inviting war. Just as the Europeans who failed to to build a bulwark against Russian aggression.
 

Scarlett O.

Moderator
Moderator
“ I’ve been waiting for something to happen
For a week or a month or a year
With the blood in the ink of the headlines
And the sound of the crowd in my ears
You might ask what it takes to remember
When you know that you’ve seen it before
Where a government lies to a people
And a country is drifting to war
And there’s a shadow on the faces
Of the men who send the guns
To the wars that are fought in the places
Where there business interests run
On the talk shows and the TV
You hear one thing again and again
How the USA stands for freedom
And we come to the side of a friend
But who are the ones we call our friends
These government s killing their own
Or the people who finally can’t take anymore
And they pick up a gun, or a brick or a stone
There are lives in the balance
There are people under fire
There are children at the cannons
And there is blood on the wire
There’s a shadow on the faces
Of the men who fan the flames
Of the wars that are fought in places
Where we can’t even say the names
They sell us the president the same way
They sell us our clothes and our cars
They sell us everything from youth to religion
The same time they sell us our wars
I want to know who the men in the shadows are
I want to hear someone asking them why
They can be counted on to tell us who our enemies are
But their never the ones to fight or to die
And there are lives in the balance
There are people under fire
There are children at the cannons
And there is blood on the wire”
Cite your sources when you copy and paste.

This was written by the singer Jackson Browne 40 years ago to protest things in politics he was not happy with.

 

Charlie24

Well-Known Member
Was it not your leader that said there would be a WW3 is he not the one that says he can send troops into another country and no one can stop him.

We are being lead into a war by those that will not have to pay the price but will become rich on the blood of others.

He's right, he can do that! He's already shown the world what he can do in bombing Iran, taking Maduro.

But can you see the approach of peace through strength in those words and actions? We are living in some dangerous times, and some countries are looking for any advantage they can get over America.

He's using the big stick in his hand to keep the world at peace, and that takes some action at times to prove it's not worth it for you.
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
He's right, he can do that! He's already shown the world what he can do in bombing Iran, taking Maduro.

But can you see the approach of peace through strength in those words and actions? We are living in some dangerous times, and some countries are looking for any advantage they can get over America.

He's using the big stick in his hand to keep the world at peace, and that takes some action at times to prove it's not worth it for you.

In his arrogance he even renamed the Monroe doctrine the Donroe doctrine.

He has designs of empire but all those pesky nations will just not go along with his vision.
 

Charlie24

Well-Known Member
In his arrogance he even renamed the Monroe doctrine the Donroe doctrine.

He has designs of empire but all those pesky nations will just not go along with his vision.

I won't or can't argue his arrogance, but that's what makes him feared throughout the world, and hated, but he doesn't care what anyone thinks. He has a job to do and he's going to do it his way.

They don't know what he may do at any given time, and that's a good thing in this present world for peace.
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
I won't or can't argue his arrogance, but that's what makes him feared throughout the world, and hated, but he doesn't care what anyone thinks. He has a job to do and he's going to do it his way.

They don't know what he may do at any given time, and that's a good thing in this present world for peace.

Really? That is not logical.

He is sounding more and more like Putin, Kim and Chi.

What you call fear is actually lack of respect for him. He is not trustworthy.
 

Ben1445

Well-Known Member
Really? That is not logical.

He is sounding more and more like Putin, Kim and Chi.

What you call fear is actually lack of respect for him. He is not trustworthy.
You don’t know what trustworthy is then. If you’re honest with him, he will be honest with you. That tells me something about your own country.
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
You don’t know what trustworthy is then. If you’re honest with him, he will be honest with you. That tells me something about your own country.

You must be speaking of someone else as what you have said does not apply to Trum*.

He tears up agreements at will so that is just one reason why he is considered to be untrustworthy.

What it tells you is that we honor agreements in spirit and in law.
 

Ben1445

Well-Known Member
You must be speaking of someone else as what you have said does not apply to Trum*.

He tears up agreements at will so that is just one reason why he is considered to be untrustworthy.

What it tells you is that we honor agreements in spirit and in law.
Or he tears up agreements that he views as poorly framed and renegotiated them.

He also probably tears up agreements that others have already voided by their own actions. He does in the open what others do in secret. That makes him honest instead of a fraud.
And apparently he had the authority to renegotiate some things.
I hope you enjoy being miserable with politics.
Maybe you will get to enjoy a third term.
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
Or he tears up agreements that he views as poorly framed and renegotiated them.

He also probably tears up agreements that others have already voided by their own actions. He does in the open what others do in secret. That makes him honest instead of a fraud.
And apparently he had the authority to renegotiate some things.
I hope you enjoy being miserable with politics.
Maybe you will get to enjoy a third term.

As I said to tears up agreements that were negotiated. Funny how he called the CUSMA that he negotiated the greatest agreement going, that is until he changed his mind then it was no good. Question how could Canada rip of the US when the US was the one buying the product? If they did not like the price then they did not have to buy it did they.

By the time any third term would roll around the US will just be a shell of what it could have been. The world is moving on without the US and the US does not even realize it.
 
The opening post did not mention "Lives in the Balance" by Jason Browne.

The second post claimed Mr. Trump was leading us into war for personal enrichment, a Marxist talking point. You can count on the Dark Side always charging the "peacemakers" with being warmongers.

If anyone believes in the concept of peace through strength, then upping our defense budget, and strengthening our alliances is the opposite of "drifting into war." Allowing invaders to prosper is inviting war. Just as the Europeans who failed to to build a bulwark against Russian aggression.
Russia never started a war with the west. But 30’s Germany did , sinner Trump is doing everything he can to get a war and permanent power.
 

Van

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Russia never started a war with the west. But 30’s Germany did , sinner Trump is doing everything he can to get a war and permanent power.
Dictators that invade their neighbors almost always say it was caused by the invaded country. Recall it was Kuwait's fault, not Iraq. BTW, who invaded Crimea during the Obama administration?

If anyone believes in the concept of peace through strength, then upping our defense budget, and strengthening our alliances is the opposite of "drifting into war." Allowing invaders to prosper is inviting war. Just as the Europeans who failed to to build a bulwark against Russian aggression.
 

Mikoo

Active Member
You are right.
So we renegotiated it.
Bingo. SH sure has a lot to say for a someone whose country survives under the protection of the USA. SH doesn't understand that if the US falls Canada will fall also.
I noticed he spells Trump - Trum*. I'm sure President Trump is so offended by that. SMH Typical liberal Canadian move. All symbolic - no action.
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
Bingo. SH sure has a lot to say for a someone whose country survives under the protection of the USA. SH doesn't understand that if the US falls Canada will fall also.
I noticed he spells Trump - Trum*. I'm sure President Trump is so offended by that. SMH Typical liberal Canadian move. All symbolic - no action.

You are right.
So we renegotiated it.

Notice how petty Trum* is. He is threatens to impose tariffs because he did not get a peace prize that he did not deserve.

If they do not agree with him about Greenland then he will put tariffs on a number of countries.

That is the reaction of a child. He acts more like a spoiled child than an adult.

The US is becoming irrelevant in the world of trade as nations are building better and more trustworthy trading partners. They will still trade with the US but not be tied to the US.

Do the research you will find that the US need Mexico and Canada more than we need the US. The US is just a convenient trading partner.

Look at your debt and how it is spiraling out of control. Your country is heading toward insolvency.
 

Mikoo

Active Member
Notice how petty Trum* is. He is threatens to impose tariffs because he did not get a peace prize that he did not deserve.

If they do not agree with him about Greenland then he will put tariffs on a number of countries.

That is the reaction of a child. He acts more like a spoiled child than an adult.

The US is becoming irrelevant in the world of trade as nations are building better and more trustworthy trading partners. They will still trade with the US but not be tied to the US.

Do the research you will find that the US need Mexico and Canada more than we need the US. The US is just a convenient trading partner.

Look at your debt and how it is spiraling out of control. Your country is heading toward insolvency.
LOL. Ahhhh... the arrogance of those in a kept nation!
 
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