Silverhair
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Then your saying the whole world has their sins forgiven BF and that is universalism.Yes it does, one is reconciled to God with sins forgiven.
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Then your saying the whole world has their sins forgiven BF and that is universalism.Yes it does, one is reconciled to God with sins forgiven.
The whole world isnt reconciled to God. How are the unreconciled reconciled ?Then your saying the whole world has their sins forgiven BF and that is universalism.
Thats the elect@Brightfame52 the Calvinism view of the propitiation leads to the error of universalism.
1 John 2:2, And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
The saved are the elect.Thats the elect
1 Jn 2:2 are the saved electThe saved are the elect.
More are called than become the elect.
Matthew 22:14, For many are called, but few are | elect. |
The whole world isnt reconciled to God. How are the unreconciled reconciled ?
Yes thats salvation, free from the guilt of sin, forever forgiven.Rom 5:10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son,
No thats True as well, the elect are saved by His death and shall be saved by His life. You deny and blaspheme both.But you have a problem with the last half of the verse
much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.
Yes thats salvation, free from the guilt of sin, forever forgiven.
No thats True as well, the elect are saved by His death and shall be saved by His life. You deny and blaspheme both.
But if everyone [the whole world] are elect, you are teaching universalism.1 Jn 2:2 are the saved elect
It says plainly they are reconciled to God by His Death, They are in the favor of God Ps 106 4Amazing how you can see clear scripture and distort it so badly.
You are blaspheming the Truth of GodDisagreeing with your false doctrines of calvinism is not blasphemy BF.
Everybody not elect, its limited to a remnant, but the whole world of 1 Jn 2:2 is the elect remnant.
But if everyone [the whole world] are elect, you are teaching universalism.
You have no evidence that the whole world ever means the elect.Everybody not elect, its limited to a remnant, but the whole world of 1 Jn 2:2 is the elect remnant
Everybody not elect, its limited to a remnant, but the whole world of 1 Jn 2:2 is the elect remnant
None for you that you can understandYou have no evidence that the whole world ever means the elect.
You the one blaspheming Christs Saving Death saying it saved no one. It clearly reconciled them He died for to God Rom 5:10 That's saved from sin penalty and brought into Gods FavorAs I said BF you just keep proving that you have a distorted understanding of the word of God.
A universal atonement means that Christ merely makes salvation possible and thus it denies that His death actually saves. The Bible, however, declares that Christ delivered (Heb. 2:15), reconciled (Rom. 5:10), redeemed and ransomed (Gal. 3:13), and justified His people “by his blood” (Rom. 5:9). If Jesus paid the price for everybody head for head and some perish in Hell, then His atonement does not save all—or even most of those—for whom it was made. How can Christ be “satisfied” in His atonement (Isa. 53:10), if millions perish for whom He shed His blood? Then too Christ’s death is not substitutionary, for if He took the punishment of the reprobate, why are they judged? If some for whom Christ died go to Hell, then God punishes their sins twice, once on Christ and once on them. Is this consistent with the infinite justice and righteousness of God? How can some whom Christ reconciled, and for whom there is no condemnation (Rom. 8:34), dwell forever in Hell? The Arminian Heresy of Universal Atonement – CPRCRom 5:10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son,
But you have a problem with the last half of the verse
much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.