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Slavery Numbers
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Cannibalism and child sacrifice have been the norm in some regions centuries ago. But because these acts were considered normal, common, and morally acceptable, does not mean I cannot brand them as evil.
The golden rule applies to all, no matter what period of history they may inhabit. Slavery violates the golden rule egregiously. This is not dealing with a particular group in a vacuum. This is holding them to the principles of God’s Word.
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It is important for us, to clearly understand scripture, and NOT be tossed about by the clever stories of people.
In the run-up to the Civil War, professing Christians defended treating humans as property by presenting a twisted view of scripture, rather than accepting that we are to treat others of we would want to be treated.
Here, from the internet, is a blurb in that vein:
1) The fact that Abraham was a slaveholder does not teach we can sin in the same manner as the sins of the OT Saints. Should we murder the husband of the women we desire? No, of course not!
2) There is no verse that says Abraham was "commanded" not to free his slaves. Nor is there a commandment that compelled Abraham to have his slaves circumcised without their consent.
3) Yes, God's influence upon culture does not cause immediate correction, but God's influence over time brought an end to chattel slavery, treating another human as property.
4) The slaves in view in time of Christ were slaves, who had indentured themselves for economic security, some permanently, others temporarily.
5) Yes, our word is our bond.
6) Yes, if a slave had promised to serve, he or she should not renege. But it is better, if an opportunity arises, without reneging, to be free and not slave.
In the run-up to the Civil War, professing Christians defended treating humans as property by presenting a twisted view of scripture, rather than accepting that we are to treat others of we would want to be treated.
Here, from the internet, is a blurb in that vein:
Southern theologians defended both slavery and secession from the scriptures. They argued the right of secession from the analogy of the Hebrew Republic even as Southern statesmen defended it from the Constitution itself. They defended slavery from the scriptures and considered radical abolitionists infidels. The most thorough defense of the South was provided by Robert Lewis Dabney, in his book, “A Defense of Virginia, and Through Her of the South”. His arguments included the following…
- Abraham was a slaveholder
- When Abraham came into covenant with God he was commanded not to free his slaves but to circumcise them.
- The Laws of Moses did not abolish slavery but rather regulated it.
- Christ commended slaveholders and received them as believers.
- Paul in his letters admonished Christian slaves to obey their masters.
- Paul exhorted Christian slaves to be content in their lot and not to seek to change their situation.
- In both cases of runaway slaves in the scriptures, Hagar in the Old Testament, and Onesimus in the New, they are commanded to return and submit to their masters.
1) The fact that Abraham was a slaveholder does not teach we can sin in the same manner as the sins of the OT Saints. Should we murder the husband of the women we desire? No, of course not!
2) There is no verse that says Abraham was "commanded" not to free his slaves. Nor is there a commandment that compelled Abraham to have his slaves circumcised without their consent.
3) Yes, God's influence upon culture does not cause immediate correction, but God's influence over time brought an end to chattel slavery, treating another human as property.
4) The slaves in view in time of Christ were slaves, who had indentured themselves for economic security, some permanently, others temporarily.
5) Yes, our word is our bond.
6) Yes, if a slave had promised to serve, he or she should not renege. But it is better, if an opportunity arises, without reneging, to be free and not slave.
No matter how much lipstick you put on that pig, justifying with "Oh it was no worse than others" is as unchristian as it gets. They failed to "do unto others, as you would want others to do unto you." (Matthew 7:12)