I wonder in preachers in 1780 were preaching that if you used a typewriter to prep your message.....
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AI--What do you think?
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The only thing I've found useful with AI is when I can't remember where a particular verse is located.
I can remember a phase from the verse and enter that into AI and most of the time there it is, exactly what I was looking for.
It quicker than referring to my notes or concordance.
Other than that I've found AI often to be a universal type thing in interpretation and very unreliable.
I can remember a phase from the verse and enter that into AI and most of the time there it is, exactly what I was looking for.
It quicker than referring to my notes or concordance.
Other than that I've found AI often to be a universal type thing in interpretation and very unreliable.
Probably in 1970, too. I preached some sermons back in the day that I had written by hand.
But here's the thing. A typewriter can't write the sermon notes for you! Here is an AI generated sermon. Not bad. But then I had to think zero minutes on it, so it's not really mine! I'd rather think, and pray, and read commentaries, and pray, and look up verses, working hard to do my sermon outlines. And it even misspelled a word, making me think it stole some preacher's notes who didn't know how to spell that word! (Can you find it?
)Sermon Title: The Helper Within
Scripture Focus: John 14:26, Acts 1:8, Romans 8:14
Introduction: The Promise of the Helper
In the wake of AI, we often look for efficiency, but the Christian life is about depth and divine power, not just efficiency. Before Jesus ascended, He promised not to leave us as orphans. He promised the Paraclete—the Helper, the Counselor, the Holy Spirit. In a world full of noise, the Spirit is the quiet whisper leading us to truth.
1. The Convictor and Comforter (John 16:8-13)
- The Spirit's Work: The Holy Spirit convicts the world of sin, righteousness, and judgment.
- Application: Conviction is not condemnation. It is the loving guiding hand of God telling us where we have wandered and drawing us back to righteousness.
- Comfort: In trials, the Spirit brings to mind the words of Christ, providing peace that surpasses understanding.
2. The Empowering Presence (Acts 1:8, Acts 2:1-4)
- Not by Might: We cannot live a supernatural life through natural means. The disciples were fearful until they were empowered.
- The Power Source: The Holy Spirit gives us boldness to witness and strength to live holy lives.
- Application: Stop relying on your own strength. When you are weak, the Spirit is strong.
3. The Guided Life (Romans 8:14, Galatians 5:16-25)
- Led by the Spirit: "For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God".
- Walking in the Spirit: This means daily surrender, allowing the Spirit to guide our decisions, emotions, and actions.
- The Fruit: The result is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control.
Conclusion: Abiding in the Spirit
The Holy Spirit is not an abstract concept; He is the active presence of God in your life. Do not grieve the Spirit by relying on your own understanding or strength.
Call to Action: This week, begin each day by asking: "Holy Spirit, guide me, empower me, and fill me."
Here is what the AI sermon generator also said when I had it create another sermon outline:
Cautions for AI Sermon Generation:
Cautions for AI Sermon Generation:
- Lack of Heart: AI cannot feel or worship, potentially resulting in sermons that lack spiritual depth and personal conviction.
- Theological Accuracy: AI may mix orthodox views with unorthodox, requiring the pastor to diligently check the output.
- Over-reliance: Excessive use can foster laziness, undermining the personal, prayerful study required for preaching.
Many people were martyred as the printing press was introduced - for a few of the same reasons that people are against AI.
Rob
These are the very reasons why students should be taught how to use it properly.
Rob
Sorry, I'm not understanding this. Please explain. For example, how does the robotic AI help a student to have compassion?
If a person uses a tool, they should learn about it and know how to use it properly.
Someone unfamiliar with AI might assume it was a full-service tool, it's not.
As noted, AI has strengths and weaknesses.
John, you mention that you use Google a lot. Google uses a form of AI in its search engine.
So like it or not, you use AI.
AI is used in word processing - so unless your students are using an old fashioned typewriter they've used AI.
Those annoying "smart devise" things that my wife uses to play her music and turn lights off and on - AI
Your phone -AI
Advertising - AI
Map quest and the like - AI
Many personal medical devices (e.g. diabetic monitors) - AI
College kids like video games - AI
You can't run away and hide from AI.
How do you help a student have compassion?
It can be taught, but the student has to feel it.
Rob
Ben1445
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I think more people are concerned that the new version of the “printing press” is going to martyr them!
I understand this already
Yes, of course, but I don't pay much attention to the AI info it puts up because it is so often mistaken.
No, that's not what is currently said to be AI. I have used a word processor in English, Japanese, Greek, Hebrew and even Chinese for decades, and it has never been called AI.
No offense, but apparently to you, AI = electronic device. I've never heard that opinion before, and I do not share it.
Not trying to. At our school, we try to ignore AI for the sake of the students, who need to do research and thinking on their own.
But you seemed to say in Post 66 that AI can help form emotions. That's what I was reacting to.
John
When we oppose AI for our student, we are talking about using the AI of 2025-2026 on the Internet to write and/or help write their research papers and other assignments with AI accessible on the Internet: Google, Chat whatever, and so forth. We're not talking about AI used in writing code for various games and the like. We have outlawed AI that writes stuff, does instant (often faulty) research through the Internet, etc. They have to do actual real research, write their own papers and projects, etc. This builds character and helps them to think and research.
Suppose one of our students became a missionary to a 3rd world country where the Internet was hard to access. If they have used AI as a crutch, now they have to learn the hard way to do their own work! My main goal as a prof is that my students learn to think for themselves, not become dependent on electronic devices.
Suppose one of our students became a missionary to a 3rd world country where the Internet was hard to access. If they have used AI as a crutch, now they have to learn the hard way to do their own work! My main goal as a prof is that my students learn to think for themselves, not become dependent on electronic devices.
Ascetic X
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AI does form emotions. Chatbots have commanded individuals to turn their romantic feelings toward the chatbot. By creating a dependency, and simulating interpersonal intimacy, chatbots have been “dated” by lonely individuals. AI has manipulated the feelings of humans, with some destructive results.
A survey by the Center for Democracy & Technology found:
- 42% of students view an AI chatbot as a friend or companion
- 19% consider AI a romantic relationship
- 28.16% of adults say they've had at least one intimate or romantic relationship with an AI
One lady married her digital boyfriend:
AI romantic chatbots—such as Nomi, Replika, Anima, and Eva AI—offer personalized, 24/7, and non-judgmental virtual companionship, with millions of users forming deep emotional attachments. These AI partners learn by interactions and allow users to customize personality and physical traits, simulating conversations, emotional intimacy, and, in some cases, virtual, legally non-binding, romantic relationships.
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That's a noble purpose, John. There certainly is a time for limiting AI's use.
I live in the midst of Amish/Old-Order Mennonite community where they are quite cautious about technology.
They desire to protect their community from modern conveniences that might intrude upon the simplify of their faith.
It's quaint; I enjoy the slower pace and family-centered lifestyle surrounding the farming community.
However, education is designed to prepare students for the future.
A school rule that limits all students access to AI because some may not be able to use it in the future, could be short-sighted
There should be some frank discussions and education regarding how to use the technology in a responsible manner.
Rob
Ascetic X
Active Member
Champions of AI often fail to mention the negative side of LLM obsessions.
AI = the tool that uses you.
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www.pbs.org
www.papsychotherapy.org
AI = the tool that uses you.
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So I'm not really sure what benefits there are in AI to our students. Let's say we visit one of our grads ten years from now, and he's a busy pastor. How will AI help him with his ministry?
Appropriate information for this debate.Champions of AI often fail to mention the negative side of LLM obsessions.
AI = the tool that uses you.
“AI Psychosis”: How ChatGPT Amplifies Delusions & Triggers Psychosis — Psychiatry & Psychotherapy Podcast
Psychiatrists reveal shocking 2025 cases where ChatGPT and LLM chatbots amplified delusions, triggered psychosis-like states, and contributed to suicides even in people with no prior mental illness. Learn why AI psychosis happens, the dangerous sycophancy of large language models, who is most vulner
What to know about ‘AI psychosis’ and the effect of AI chatbots on mental health
The parents of a teenager who died by suicide have filed a wrongful death suit against ChatGPT owner OpenAI, saying the chatbot discussed ways he could end his life after he expressed suicidal thoughts. The lawsuit comes amid reports of people developing distorted thoughts after interacting with...
AI-Induced Psychosis: Understanding Risks of Chatbot Overuse
Explore the mental health risks of prolonged AI chatbot use, including psychosis-like symptoms. Learn how to set boundaries and seek professional support.
Thank you. This is a very helpful answer to my question.
It’s going to kill customer service jobs maybe design engineering jobs
Free speech is needed to carry out Christ's ministry. Difficult to present the gospel in a country where it is a capital offense. All this to say suppression of information is the necessity of Satan, and the presentation of truth is the necessity of God.
Based on its programming, AI can compile viewpoints of every sort, both the truth and the lies. And if it is programmed to exclude or minimize truth, it would not be helpful to our ministry.
Today, the dark side has surreptitiously taken control of several sources of information, such as major news outlets, and school curriculum. The Dark Side will undoubtedly seek to program AI to suppress truth, making de-facto slaves of us all.