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Acts 8:1. At that time a great persecution arose against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered throughout the regions of Judea and Samaria, except the apostles.'James 1:1
James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
Thank Martin, but 12 tribes?Acts 8:1. At that time a great persecution arose against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered throughout the regions of Judea and Samaria, except the apostles.'
Acts 11:19. 'Now those who were scattered after the persecution that arose over Stephen travelled as far as Phoenicia, Cyprus and Cyrene....'
It seems likely to me that James wrote to these people. Some commentators have surmised that the letter was originally written in Hebrew, but there is no evidence of this.
I suppose that there were some out of all twelve tribes who were 'scattered out of Jerusalem.Thank Martin, but 12 tribes?
Thank Martin, but 12 tribes?
9 | and when they perceived the grace that was given unto me, James and Cephas and John, they who were reputed to be pillars, gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship, that we should go unto the Gentiles, and they unto the circumcision; |
I am less than 0.001% expert at any of this, but “to the 12 tribes” sounds like an idiom for “to all the decedents of Jacob”.Thank Martin, but 12 tribes?
| John 7:35 | Then the Jews said to one another, “Where is this man about to go that we will not find him? Surely he is not going to go to our people dispersed among the Greeks and teach the Greeks, is he? |
| James 1:1 | James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes in the dispersion: Greetings. |
| 1 Peter 1:1 | Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who live as refugees of the dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, |
They went to the same place ,Asia Minor. James wrote his letter in AD 45, the first of the NT epistles The twelve tribes were "scattered" among the gentiles, but they remained distinctly Israelites nonetheless, even after they were converted. The believers among them represented the "remnant" of Israel. This is one of four major prophetic themes in scriptures and at once identifies what Paul means in his letter to the Galatians, which he wrote in AD 49, the first of his 13 letters to the gentiles, when he called them the "Israel of God."Read, 'the circumcision':
Galatians Chapter 2
9
and when they perceived the grace that was given unto me, James and Cephas and John, they who were reputed to be pillars, gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship, that we should go unto the Gentiles, and they unto the circumcision;
James was an apostle to the Jews.
Anyone, in my opinion, who would have understanding about the church of Jesus Christ would also need to take the approach that you are taking and keep these truths separated in the apostolic age. There remained a national identity for Judah during these years but in the foreknowledge of God they would not receive him and be converted. So God would work out his redemptive purposes for Israel through these 10 tribes that that were represented with all the tribes (Paul, for instance, a Benjamite, was born and raised in this region).And she conceived again, and bare a daughter. And God said unto him, Call her name Loruhamah: for I will no more have mercy upon the house of Israel; but I will utterly take them away. Hosea 1:6
Israel is swallowed up: now shall they be among the Gentiles as a vessel wherein is no pleasure. Hosea 8:9
Then said God, Call his name Loammi: for ye are not my people, and I will not be your God. Hos 1:9
And I will scatter you among the heathen, [Goy, Gentiles] and will draw out a sword after you: and your land shall be desolate, and your cities waste. Lev 26:33 [Both houses, Judah and Israel}
I said, I would scatter them into corners, I would make the remembrance of them to cease from among men: Deut 32:26 Question? remembrance of who? Did Haman remember who some of them were? Who, how did he identify them? Did it have anything to do with the law? Did A Hitler remember who some of them were? How did he identify them? The law?
Hosea 8:12 I have written to him [Ephraim as representative of house of Israel] the great things of my law, but they were counted as a strange thing.
Who did men remember and who did they cease to remember?
IMHO the letter of James is written to both housed, those remembered as the people of God and those not remembered as the people of God.
James says of those being called from the twelve tribes, V18 a kind of firstfruits.
I believe the 144000 of Rev 14:1,3 from the twelve tribes are also called the firstfruits in V 4
Hosea 1:10,11 Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God. Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land: for great shall be the day of Jezreel.
Interesting whatever one draws from the Word of God.
The twelve tribes were "scattered" among the gentiles,
21 | For Moses from generations of old hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath. |
5 | Now there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, from every nation under heaven. |
1 | And there came one of the seven angels that had the seven bowls, and spake with me, saying, Come hither, I will show thee the judgment of the great harlot that sitteth upon many waters; |
This Israel of God are those of the 12 tribes who are "new creatures"
15 | For neither is circumcision anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. |
16 | And as many as shall walk by this rule, peace be upon them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God. |
3 | for we are the circumcision, who worship by the Spirit of God, and glory in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh: |
Point please?Yeah:
Acts Chapter 15
21
For Moses from generations of old hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath.
Acts Chapter 2
5
Now there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, from every nation under heaven.
Wrong. The "new creature" is 'The Israel of God', singular, "one new man", "one flock", where there cannot be Greek and Jew, circumcision and uncircumcision, barbarian, Scythian, bondman, freeman; but Christ is all, and in all.
Galatians Chapter 6
15
For neither is circumcision anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. 16
And as many as shall walk by this rule, peace be upon them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.
Philippians Chapter 3
3
for we are the circumcision, who worship by the Spirit of God, and glory in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh:
15 | For neither is circumcision anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. |
16 | And as many as shall walk by this rule, peace be upon them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God. |
Martin, prophecy and history demonstrates that Israel had a 40 year window to enter into her rest. We learn that from more than one passage, not the least of which is Hebrews 3. This means the apostolic era and the nation ended at the same time and through one event, the dispersion. Look at the parable Jesus gave which was also a prophecy from foreknowledge. This parable is a prophecy of this whole age. Follow the logic.I think that maybe too much is made of Peter going to the Jews only and Paul only to the Gentiles.
It was Peter who first went, at the instigation of God, to convert a group of Gentiles (Acts 10-11; 15:7); and of course, in almost every place that Paul visited, he made a bee-line for the local synagogue if there was one. He persisted in this practice even after declaring that he would go to the Gentiles (Acts 18:6; 19:8).
It seems to me that the arrangement described in Gal. 2:9 was simply that Paul and Barnabas should continue their mission to the Gentiles while the apostles carried on mopping up Israel and Samaria. But things may not have stayed like that. There is no mention of Peter or any other apostle when Paul returned to Jerusalem in Acts 21, and Acts 21:18 suggests that James was the most senior leader present; and Church tradition (which we don't necessarily trust) places Peter in Rome at some point, John in Ephesus and Thomas all the way over in India.
@JD731; it's clear that you have put a lot of study into your position, and I do respect that.Martin, prophecy and history demonstrates that Israel had a 40 year window to enter into her rest. We learn that from more than one passage, not the least of which is Hebrews 3. This means the apostolic era and the nation ended at the same time and through one event, the dispersion. Look at the parable Jesus gave which was also a prophecy from foreknowledge. This parable is a prophecy of this whole age. Follow the logic.
The parable was directed against the chief priests and the Pharisees, as we are told in Matt. 21:45. I think it has a message today for those church leaders who try to exclude Christ and His gospel from their churches, but that was not the thrust of the message at the time. If there was a 40 year window for anyone, it was for ordinary Jews to leave Judaism and run to Christ.Matt 23:1 And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,
2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,
3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and [my] fatlings [are] killed, and all things [are] ready: come unto the marriage.
5 But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:
6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.
7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers,( those murderers were the ones bidden, Judah and Jerusalem) and burned up their city.
All this is placing far too much emphasis on a parable. The point is that because the Jewish elite would not come to Christ, others would be called, but only those found dressed in the perfect righteousness of Christ (Isaiah 61:10) will get to taste the feast.After the burning of the city he goes to those who were not bidden.
8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
Martin, I do not believe there is maybe more than one or two posting on this whole site who believes that the wedding was ready and planned for the same time their city was burned up because they would not come to the marriage.
9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests. (the guests would be the bride)
Now, since there are no guests an effort must be put in place to find different guests and gather them to the wedding. These are not the cultural elites and some came in without a wedding garment. They were thrown out and burned up. They represent the unsaved church members. Read on in the parable and you will see what I mean.
11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
With this I fully agree. Indeed it was the main point of my post #16.There was no word ONLY to the Jews or ONLY to the gentiles with Paul and Peter. Each of their callings was ministering to them. It did not mean they were limited to that group of people.
As a matter of fact Peter was given the keys to the kingdom and he used those keys to open the door of faith to the Jews in Acts 2 and also he opened the door of faith to gentiles in Acts 10. This precise language was even used for the action.
Read the contexts of these verses.
Mt 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Ac 15:14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.
Acts 14:27 And when they were come, and had gathered the church together, they rehearsed all that God had done with them, and how he had opened the door of faith unto the Gentiles.