Precisely! Well said.
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Bible Vendor
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You attack the qualifications of anyone who disagrees with you. Your pattern of behavior is well documented. And the idea Credentialism is invalid because it is cited by Wikipedia is ludicrous. Once again you are attacking the credentials rather than the substance.Oh, great, Wikipedia, the fount of all wisdom. We don't allow our students to quote it, since it is always anonymous and so often wrong. I once saw two different statements of the content of the same NT ms in a Wikipedia article.
And now I'm a Pharisee for just pointing out that a Christian education can be very helpful.
Good thought. I've long believed that scholarship is a search for truth, even inconvenient truth, even truth that means one must change his or her own opinion, belief, or stand. Kind of what you said.
Folks, once again he attacked credentials. But did not address the fallacy of Credentialism.Um, it's not me who is down on Wikipedia, but my college and seminary, and probably all of Christian academia. Just sayin'.
And, as always, you are full of insults but short on substance. Ta ta for now.
@John of Japan can testify that I know everything about the Bible. So of you have a question, just ask.
(Kidding.....welcome to the BB)
Ben1445
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Folks you can’t make this stuff up. Once again this poster has addressed the poster instead of the actual question put forward. (Yes, I could not resist.)
The real trouble, as stated in previous posts is not the lack of degrees or lack of experience. No one is able to critique any of his background because he has not provided any credentials in the first place.
Some of us like to know what background of people we are talking to, especially when they are self declared scholars. Were there not so great doctrinal problems presented in such a short period of time, the scholar question would likely not be a big deal. A quick, I went to Bible college, church institute, X number of years of committed personal Bible study. Maybe a reference point like whose commentary you like best and if it there are any other benchmarks like affiliations or anything to help us understand where they are coming from.
Even spending some time in discussions that help us get to appreciate the base of knowledge that they are using.
But the initial reaction to the question of “what standard of measurement does your use of the word scholar have,” amounted to nothing more than take my word for it.
I could find those kinds of credentials in a Junior High School.
Well said.
Yep, he knows everything about the Bible....
Folks, did you see where Credentialism was addressed? Neither did I.
Why not address the content of the post? As MLK might have said, judge people on the content of their posts, not the color of their sheepskin.
Folks, did you see where Credentialism was addressed? either did I.I attacked credentials then? Huh! That's news to me. We must have completely different definitions of the word.
Why not address the content of the post? As MLK might have said, judge people on the content of their posts, not the color of their sheepskin.
BV - we are still waiting on an answer!
So, let me ask the same question in a way that will help answer the original question
1) Have you ever attended a Bible College / Seminary?
2) If so - was it resident or on-line?
3) Which School did you attend?
4) Did you graduate?
5) If so - which degree (s) have you received?
6) would you recommend that schooling to anyone?
NO, I do not have a Bible Degree. And I do not consider myself a Bible Scholar.
In fact at one time, I was the teacher of adult men and one of the class members was the President of
the Baptist Convention of NY! He held a doctorate! Boy talking about feeling inadequate!
Ben1445
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Let me help you see it better.
I made the part that addressed credentialism a larger font and bold so that you can see it.
Let's all chill out - including me. I'm a little hot under the collar about something not related to the BB.
It's the Lord's Day.
It's the Lord's Day.
Good Grief, that is NOT Credentialism. You addressed the "real trouble!" Why not address the content of the post? As MLK might have said, judge people on the content of their posts, not the color of their sheepskin.
Ben1445
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Sorry, I guess the point was that the content of the post was lacking the desired answer. There is not enough content to judge the answer to the question that was not answered.
Simply put, it was asked by what standard do you call yourself a scholar?
No satisfactory answer has yet been provided, not even a perceivable attempt.
So I don’t know how anyone can be accused of scrutinizing someone’s credentials and relying on credentials to sanitize their work when they don’t present any credentials anyway.
But it really is a moot point. The question was asked well before the questionable doctrines came to light.
I’m not sure if that helps the discussion or not, but if it doesn’t, repeating the same post is going to get you a similar answer along with the definition of insanity.
Have a great day.
Credentialism is not the way we are to judge others, and not the way we should expect other to judge us. The ol I have a master's so my opinion is superior to yours is infantile nonsense.
Here is what Bible Vendor said:
I am a born again Christian, Bible scholar and Christian content creator. And I know, that no one knows everything about the Bible, therefore I hope to share, what I know and learn from others, what I don’t know.
Many thanks for accepting my registration.
Why not just accept "scholar" as indicating someone who has spent time studying scripture and is trying to learn more?
Ben1445
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Because he didn’t say that. When asked for clarification about his usage of the word, he gave no answer.
I don’t want to accept your definition as what he meant. I would like it from him.
The question is what quality of time have you spent?
A self guided tour of education may be rigorous or relaxing. A degree comes with classes and course requirements. The self guided tour may have been more rigorous than a full class load. That is fine. I would not expect them to keep track of their own credit hours for a class they aren’t taking from a college they aren’t attending. Just some kind of explanation like “I really like biblical languages and that is my favorite personal study,” or something like that. It’s not a federal case.
It is really just a meet and greet kind of question that got a lot of attention based on some other questionable posts.