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The Generation of Jesus Christ - What It Means

KenH

Well-Known Member
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. Rev 21:1

I wonder; What is the purpose of the new earth?

The new heavens and earth, wherein righteousness will dwell, replaces this sin-filled heavens and earth. What a glorious hope for all of God's elect to look forward to - sin-free resurrected spiritual bodies and a sin-free heavens and earth.

2 Peter 3:10-13
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
 

Anthony Pritchard

Active Member
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. Rev 21:1

I wonder; What is the purpose of the new earth?
The purpose of the new earth is to remove the curse. Scripture is very clear that the present creation is under the curse of sin and death, and that the new creation is the removal of everything the curse brought into the world. Revelation 22:3 says, “And there shall be no more curse.” That is the plain statement. The new earth is the place where the curse is gone, where death is gone, where sorrow and pain are gone, and where righteousness dwells.

Romans 8 says that the whole creation groans under bondage and waits for deliverance. Second Peter 3 says that the present heavens and earth will pass away and that we look for “new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.” Revelation 21 says that God will wipe away all tears and that the former things have passed away.

So the purpose of the new earth is the removal of the curse and the restoration of creation to what God intended before sin entered the world. It is the home of righteousness, free from corruption, decay, death, and judgment.
 

canadyjd

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The purpose of the new earth is to remove the curse. Scripture is very clear that the present creation is under the curse of sin and death, and that the new creation is the removal of everything the curse brought into the world. Revelation 22:3 says, “And there shall be no more curse.” That is the plain statement. The new earth is the place where the curse is gone, where death is gone, where sorrow and pain are gone, and where righteousness dwells.

Romans 8 says that the whole creation groans under bondage and waits for deliverance. Second Peter 3 says that the present heavens and earth will pass away and that we look for “new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.” Revelation 21 says that God will wipe away all tears and that the former things have passed away.

So the purpose of the new earth is the removal of the curse and the restoration of creation to what God intended before sin entered the world. It is the home of righteousness, free from corruption, decay, death, and judgment.
And so I learn something new every day.

Very well stated. Thank you

Now the question, is it literal or is it figurative… like so much else in Revelation.

I always considered Heaven to be the future of all believers. Does this description of a new earth simply refer to our perfect existence in heaven with God?

Peace to you
 

Anthony Pritchard

Active Member
And so I learn something new every day.

Very well stated. Thank you

Now the question, is it literal or is it figurative… like so much else in Revelation.

I always considered Heaven to be the future of all believers. Does this description of a new earth simply refer to our perfect existence in heaven with God?

Peace to you
Yes it is literal. Revelation often uses symbols, but it also interprets its own symbols, and when the text speaks plainly of a new heaven and a new earth, it is describing an actual renewed creation. Revelation 21:1 says the first heaven and the first earth pass away, and Revelation 21:5 says, “Behold, I make all things new.” Revelation 22:3 says, “And there shall be no more curse.” Those statements only make sense if there is a real creation being restored.

Heaven is the dwelling place of God, but the New Jerusalem comes down out of heaven from God. It is heaven brought to earth. The new earth is the place where God dwells with His people, where righteousness dwells, and where the curse is removed. So our future is not an existence floating in heaven, but a resurrected life in a renewed creation with God dwelling among us.
 

Ascetic X

Well-Known Member
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. Rev 21:1

I wonder; What is the purpose of the new earth?
The purpose of the new Earth is to host the New Jerusalem. It is where righteousness will prevail, the nations will be healed, and there will be no more curse on the plants or animals. It is where the servants of the Lord will reign and work.

Revelation 22

2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.
 

canadyjd

Well-Known Member
Yes it is literal. Revelation often uses symbols, but it also interprets its own symbols, and when the text speaks plainly of a new heaven and a new earth, it is describing an actual renewed creation. Revelation 21:1 says the first heaven and the first earth pass away, and Revelation 21:5 says, “Behold, I make all things new.” Revelation 22:3 says, “And there shall be no more curse.” Those statements only make sense if there is a real creation being restored.

Heaven is the dwelling place of God, but the New Jerusalem comes down out of heaven from God. It is heaven brought to earth. The new earth is the place where God dwells with His people, where righteousness dwells, and where the curse is removed. So our future is not an existence floating in heaven, but a resurrected life in a renewed creation with God dwelling among us.
I shall ponder this. Thanks

Peace to you
 

KenH

Well-Known Member
2 Peter 3:10-13
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Hebrews 1:10-12 says the same thing:
And,
Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth;
And the heavens are the works of thine hands:
They shall perish; but thou remainest:
And they all shall wax old as doth a garment;
And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up,
And they shall be changed:
But thou art the same,
And thy years shall not fail.
 

JD731

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Mt i:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

Jesus Christ is unique in that he is the only man ever born of a woman and fathered by God and connected to the physical linage through this birth. It is not a surprise. It is the first thing we ever learned about him.

Ge 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

The focus of the genealogical line of Abraham and David was fulfilled in Jesus because the purpose of this line was to provide the highway of the seed of the woman and when Jesus came we have no other genealogy listed because the promised seed came through the woman. Ga 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, 5 to redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons (of the Father)." Full attention must now be centered on his generational time period to redeem his people, Israel, and to finish the work the Father gave him to do. His coming would not be enough to fulfill the covenants and deliver the promise. The scriptures have taught us that a 7 is going to be involved in complete things. I quoted this earlier but Jesus stated his mission after he rose from the dead. The following 70 years after his birth is his generational time period on the earth to accomplish all the OT prophets and Psalmists said he would do. Since it did not happen in the 70 years of that generation and since God cannot lie, then that generation would need to be suspended in time. The way time is suspended is by death. dead things are buried. God has power to raise the dead. That is what happened to that generation.

No one except a dispensationalist can see the parallelisms in the scriptures. I am not going to explain this because I do not want to give anyone something else to deny. But, I will say that both Israel, the collective and fleshly son of God and Jesus the Lord from heaven share the same prophetic strain. Broadly speaking both are born in the flesh and die because of sin, are buried and both are raised again by the Father early in the morning on the third day when a day is as one thousand years and a thousand year is as one day. Salvation is then provided to the nations through them.

One cannot even imagine the glorious truths he misses out on by following these false religious systems.

Ho 6:1 Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.
2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.
3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth.

Ro 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles (about Israel), inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh (Israelites V1), and might save some of them. (a remnant)
15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead? (a resurrection)

I do not know any more than I have learned by believing the words of scriptures and being very careful about context. Salvation is about believing God the Father and Jesus Christ has reconciled us by taking away the thing that caused enmity between us. He did it by dying our death sentence that our sins demanded. I believe Jesus Christ died for me and God has received me and has counted me righteous in Jesus because he raised him from the dead. My prayer is that I please him with whatever I say about his word and say nothing amiss.

23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it (righteousness) was imputed to him;
24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him (the Father) that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; Ga 1:1
25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

Luke 21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.
 
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