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Would consistent use of the fallacy of composition make the KJV into a "take away" version?

Logos1560

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Some or many KJV defenders sometimes seem to use and rely on the fallacy of composition in making their unproven, overgeneralized statements about modern Bible translations.

Henry Virkler noted: “The fallacy of composition occurs when someone assumes that what is true of the individual members of a class is true of the entire class” (Christian’s Guide to Critical Thinking, p. 202). In the glossary, Norman Geisler and Ronald Brooks defined the fallacy of composition as “fallacy that assumes that what is true of the parts is true of the whole” (Come, Let Us Reason, p. 190). Norman Geisler and Ronald Brooks asserted: “You cannot logically conclude anything about a whole group from something you only know about part of it, even if it looks right” (p. 82). Joshua Rasmussen observed: “It is false that whatever is true of the parts is automatically also true of the whole” (How Reason, p. 38). Joshua Rasmussen added: “Arguments that rely on the Parts to Whole principle are fallacious. They commit the fallacy of composition: they assume that the whole has all the same properties as its parts” (Ibid.). In his glossary, Gordon Clark defined composition as “an informal logical fallacy in which the characteristic of the part is attributed to the whole” (Logic, p. 134). Gordon Clark noted: “This argument is called the fallacy of composition. The logical reason is that the characteristics of components are not necessarily, nor even usually, the characteristics of the compound” (p. 13).

Use of an adjective to describe the whole text of a translation can involve use of the fallacy of composition when or if it is assumed that what is true of a few individual renderings, of many individual renderings, or even of a great majority of the individual renderings is true of all the renderings in that translation. There is an important major difference in use of an adjective to describe overall a Bible translation and use of an adjective to describe every rendering of a Bible translation.

If this incorrect use of the fallacy of composition was consistently applied including to the KJV, it would unintentionally be suggesting that the KJV could be identified as a "take away" version since the makers of the KJV in effect omitted or took away over 800 English words found in the 1539 Great Bible. The 1539 Great Bible is the first authorized English version, and it is one of the pre-1611 English Bibles of which the KJV is a revision. The additional words in the 1539 Great Bible were English translations of readings in the Greek Septuagint or in Jerome's Latin Vulgate.

The 1539 Great Bible is included in the KJV-only view's pure stream of Bibles, good line of Bibles, or good tree of Bibles. According to a consistent application of some typical KJV-only reasoning, did the 1539 Great Bible retain the quality or attribute of inspiration or was the 1611 KJV a revision of an uninspired pre-1611 English Bible?

Along with taking away these 800 words from the 1539 Great Bible, the makers of the KJV acknowledged in their 1611 marginal notes that sometimes they omitted or took away a Hebrew OT word or a Greek NT word by giving no English word/rendering for it in the verse although they sometimes gave an English word for it in their marginal note.
 

Logos1560

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In several likely additions from the Latin Vulgate/Greek Septuagint including three whole verses in Psalm 14 (between verses 4 and 5), an edition of the Great Bible in 1540 has over two hundred words in the book of Psalms that are not found in the KJV (check and compare Ps. 1:4, 2:11, 7:11, 11:4, 13:6, 14:2,14:5, 18:6, 19:14, 20:9, 22:1, 22:31, 24:4. 28:3, 29:1, 30:7, 33:3, 33:10, 37:28, 37:36, 38:16, 38:22, 41:1, 42:10, 45:9, 48:4, 50:21, 51:1, 55:12, 55:23, 65:1, 67:1, 71:8, 73:13, 73:28, 85:8, 92:12, 95:7, 108:1, 111:10, 115:9, 118:2, 118:25, 119:97, 120:7, 132:4, 134:1, 134:2, 136:26, 137:1, 145:15, 147:8, 148:5). The same textually-based differences in the book of Psalms are found in John Earle’s 1894 reprint of The Psalter of the Great Bible of 1539. In his introduction to his reprint of the 1539 Great Bible’s Book of Psalms, John Earle noted: “The chief type representing the Hebrew text, while the Greek (Latin) additions are bracketed and in reduced lettering” (p. xlii).

In Psalm 68:4, the Great Bible added a clause “as it were upon an horse” that is not from the Hebrew, not from Jerome’s Latin Vulgate, and not from the Greek Septuagint. The Great Bible rendered this verse as follows: “Oh sing unto God, and sing praise unto his name: magnify him that rideth upon the heavens as it were upon a horse: praise ye him in his name JA and rejoice before him.” At Psalm 104:21, the 1539 Great Bible has the archaic rendering “seek their meat at God” where the 1568 Bishops’ Bible has “seeking their meat of God” and the 1611 KJV has “seek their meat from God.”

A 1540 edition of the Great Bible also has over two hundred fifty words in the book of Proverbs that are not found in the KJV (check and compare Prov. 4:27, 6:12, 12:11, 13:13, 14:21, 15:5, 15:27, 16:5, 17:16, 18:8, 18:22, 25:10, 25:20, 27:21, 31:4). At the end of chapter 4 in the book of Proverbs, the 1540 Great Bible has this addition: “For the Lord knoweth the ways that are on the right hand. As for the ways that be on the left hand, they be froward. For he shall direct thy goings, and thy ways shall he guide in peace.” Around Proverbs 6:12, the 1540 Great Bible added: “But if thou be not slothful, thy harvest shall come as a springing well, & poverty shall flee far from thee.” The addition near Proverbs 12:11 stated: “Who so hath pleasure to continue at the wine, leaveth dishonestness in his own dwellings.” The Great Bible’s addition near Proverbs 13:13 stated: “A deceitful son shall have no good: but a discrete servant shall do full well, and his way shall prosper.” After Proverbs 14:21, the Great Bible added: “He that putteth his trust in the Lord, loveth to be merciful.” After Proverbs 15:5, this is added: “Where righteousness is plentiful, there is very great power: but the imaginations of the ungodly shall be rooted out.” At the end of Proverbs 15:27, the Great Bible added: “Through mercy and faith are sins purged, and through the fear of the Lord doth every one eschew evil.” After Proverbs 16:5, the Great Bible stated: “The beginning of a good life is to do righteousness for that is more accepted unto God than to offer by sacrifices.” Around Proverbs 17:16, this addition can be found: “Whoso buildeth his house too high seeketh destruction: and he that refuseth to learn, shall fall into mischief.” The Great Bible added: “Fear casteth down him that is slothful: and the souls of such as live in voluptuousness shall hunger” after Proverbs 18:8. After Proverbs 18:22, the Great Bible added: “He that putteth away a good woman, putteth away a good thing: but he that keepeth an harlot, is a fool and unwise.” After Proverbs 25:10, this addition is found: “Grace and friendship doth deliver which see that thou keep for thyself, lest thou be reproved.” The Great Bible added the following: “Like as the moth hurteth a garment, and a worm the tree, so doth the heaviness of a man hurt the heart” at Proverbs 25:20. After Proverbs 27:21, the Great Bible added: “The heart of a wicked man seeketh after mischief, but a true heart seeketh for knowledge.” To Proverbs 31:4, this is added in the Great Bible: “For there is no secret where drunkenness reigneth.”
 

Foxmeister

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When I was a kid, I had a difficult time following what was written in the KJV because of the use of what I refer to as old English. The confusion resulted in me not wanting to read it.
 

Logos1560

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Other textually-based additions are found in the Great Bible in other Old Testament books. At 1 Samuel 4:1, the 1540 Great Bible has this addition: “And it fortuned that in those days the Philistines came together to fight.” Around 1 Samuel 5:6, the following addition is found in the 1540 Great Bible: “The villages also and the fields in the midst of the country were full & there came up mice & there was a confusion of great death in the city.” Around 1 Samuel 5:9, another addition states: “And the Bethites [or Geththites] took counsel & made themselves [prayer] seats of skins.” Another long addition [“and thou shalt deliver his people out of the hands of their enemies, which are round about them. And this token shalt thou have, that the Lord anointed thee to be prince”] is found at 1 Samuel 10:1. Near what would be 1 Samuel 13:15, this addition is given: “and the remnant of the folk went up after Saul, to meet the people, which fought against them, as they were coming from Gilgal to Gabaa in the hill of Benjamin.” Around 1 Samuel 14:13 these words “so when they had seen Jonathan’s face” are added. Then after the word “increased” in 1 Samuel 14:41, this addition is given: “Lord God, give you the judgment. How happeneth it, that thou gavest thy servant no answer to day? If this sin be in me or in Jonathan my son, shew it, or if this iniquity be in thy people.” The 1540 Great Bible has this addition at 1 Samuel 15:13: “Saul offered burnt sacrifice unto the Lord of the first of the spoils, which he had brought from Amalek.” The 1540 Great Bible has another addition around 1 Samuel 17:36 where this is stated: “Now, will I go & take away the rebuke of the people, for what is this uncircumcised Philistine.” The Great Bible additions in 1 Samuel would be over 200 words which are taken away in the KJV.

Because of possible additions from Jerome’s Latin Vulgate, an edition of the Great Bible also has over one hundred words in one New Testament book (Acts) which are not found in the KJV (check and compare Acts 4:25, 4:27, 5:15, 13:30, 14:7, 15:34c, 15:41c, 18:4, 23:24c, 24:17). Some other NT examples of likely additions in the Great Bible include Matthew 24:41 where this is added: "Two in a bed, the one shall be received, and the other refused." "He shall enter into the kingdom of heaven" is added to the end of Matthew 7:21. Near the beginning of Matthew 26:15, the words “unto them” are added from the Latin Vulgate. Another addition is found at Luke 16:21 [“and no man gave unto him”]. At the end of Luke 24:36, the 1540 edition added: “It is I, scare not.” At the end of 1 Corinthians 4:16, the Great Bible added: "as I follow Christ." The words "with whom also I am lodged" are added to the end of 1 Corinthians 16:19. The Great Bible added at 1 John 1:4 these words: “ye may rejoice, and that.” The Great Bible added the following at 2 John 11: "Behold, I have told you before that ye should not be ashamed in the day of the Lord." After the word “fire” in Jude 1:23, there is also an addition [“and have compassion on the other”]. At the end of Jude 1:24, another addition is found [“at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ”]. After the words “the third part” and before the phrase “of trees” at Revelation 8:7, the 1540 edition has added words [“of the earth was set on fire, and the third part”].
 

Deacon

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Some or many KJV defenders sometimes seem to use and rely on the fallacy of composition in making their unproven, overgeneralized statements about modern Bible translations.
Could you provide some examples where KJV defenders (here on the BB and in the general public) employ the fallacy of composition to support their claims about the KJV translation?
Use of an adjective to describe the whole text of a translation can involve use of the fallacy of composition when or if it is assumed that what is true of a few individual renderings, of many individual renderings, or even of a great majority of the individual renderings is true of all the renderings in that translation. There is an important major difference in use of an adjective to describe overall a Bible translation and use of an adjective to describe every rendering of a Bible translation.

In this age of the internet, concise communication makes an impact, whereas a fully documented and elaborate text is generally ignored.

I think that's why some don't like your content... they don't want to wade through the data and think things through.

Changing one's opinions and transforming is hard work.

Rob
 
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