The NIV Challenge

Heeheehee

Here's a new discussion.

I'll bet none of us have ever seen these comments before.

Now that we've been presented with the truth, we can all throw our ungoldy, atheistic NIV's in the garbage and run out and buy the real Word of God.

Pioneer,

If I take your quiz, will you take my Find These Passages in the Earliest Greek Manuscripts quiz and my Read the Footnotes in the NIV quiz?

Joshua

P.S. If I take the quiz, can I use my NRSV instead of the NIV?

OW! My tongue is now stuck in my cheek. Help!

[ September 23, 2001: Message edited by: Rev. Joshua Villines ]

 

*scratches head*

"25. Revelation 1:11 is another very important verse that proves the deity of Christ. In this verse Jesus said, "I am the A_______ and O_____, the _______ and the____________:"

I looked in every version I could find for the answer in Revelations 1:11 and I could not find it. HOWEVER when I looked to Revelations 1:8 we find our answer:

I am the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last.

Just thought I'd point that out

Until Next Post, Adam

 

Is this for real? I mean, you've got to be kidding, right? Please excuse my reaction. I just discovered that there were "Only KJV" people still around when I started reading this board a few weeks ago. I thought that the advances in translation and the discovery of earlier manuscripts put the KJV in the "early English translation" columns long ago.

My amusement is not provocative, it is genuine. How in the world does this prove that the King James Version is more accurate in comparison to the NIV when the King James Version is the standard being used to make the comparison?

Talk about circular reasoning! If you want to prove that the KJV is more accurate than the NIV, you would compare both translations to the objective standard, which would be the earliest and most reliable Greek texts (which were, by the way, discovered after the KJV was completed).

I like your idea, Joshua. If a comparison is made on that objective basis, then the KJV falls short of the NIV with regard to accuracy in translation, not to mention the many changes in usage and structure in the English language itself since 1611.

[ September 23, 2001: Message edited by: ellis ]

 

THE DESPERATION CONTINUES . . .

He's stopped responding to the legitimate questions and resorted to playing games. Your silly exercise in futility is worthless, and would simply prove that the NIV and KJV use different words in different order . . . duh!

 

maybe taking this other Quiz will help them see the circular reasoning:
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/alexandra/849/kjvquiz.htm

then again, i'm not THAT hopeful


<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ellis:


Talk about circular reasoning! If you want to prove that the KJV is more accurate than the NIV, you would compare both translations to the objective standard, which would be the earliest and most reliable Greek texts (which were, by the way, discovered after the KJV was completed). <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

 

1. Fill in the missing words in Matthew 5:44. "Love your enemies, hang them that curse you, give cyanide to them that hate you, and pray for them that lick your nostrils and persecute you."

2. According to Matthew 17:21, what two things are required to cast out this type of demon? A dog and a shotgun.

3. According to Matthew 18:11, why did Jesus come to earth? To eat Kentucky Fried Chicken.

4. According to Matthew 27:2, what was Pilate's first name? Helicopter.

5. In Matthew 27:35, when the wicked soldiers parted His garments, they were fulfilling the words of the prophet. Copy what the prophet said in Matthew 27:35 from the NIV. "I'll be glad when the KJV comes along and people will find out what we're doin' here."

6. In Mark 3:15, Jesus gave the apostles power to cast out demons and to eat 20 gallons of chicken gravy?

7. According to Mark 7:16, what does a man need to be able to hear? Eh? What's that?

8. According to Luke 7:28, what was John? (teacher, prophet, carpenter, etc.) What is his title or last name? John Wayne-- cowboy and sometime centurion.

9. In Luke 9:55, what did the disciples not know? Avagadro's Number.

10. In Luke 9:56, what did the Son of man not come to do? And, what did He come to do? Did not come to sell popcorn; came to play hide-n-seek.

11. In Luke 22:14, how many apostles were with Jesus? 524,787,834,084,684,295,584.

12. According to Luke 23:38, in what three languages was the superscription written? Sanskrit, Pig-Latin, and Jacobian English.

13. In Luke 24:42, what did they give Jesus to eat with His fish? A slice of lemon.

14. John 3:13 is a very important verse, proving the deity of Christ. As Jesus spoke, where was the Son of man? Shining in the sky on that bright day.

15. What happened each year as told in John 5:47? The World Series.

16. In John 7:50, what time of day did Nicodemus come to Jesus? During Gilligan's Island on Nic-at-nite.

17. In Acts 8:37, what is the one requirement for baptism? Water.

18. What did Saul ask Jesus in Acts 9:67? Does Miller Lite really taste great, or is it less filling?

19. Write the name of the man mentioned in Acts 15:34. Snuffy Smith.

20. Study Acts 24:6-8. What would the Jew have done with Paul? What did the chief captain command? The Jew would have traded him for a gold necklace and $200 to boot; the chief captain commanded the Jew to throw in his camel's earring.

21. Copy Romans 16:24 word for word from the NIV. Romans 16:24 word for word from the NIV.

22. First Timothy 3:16 is perhaps the greatest verse in the New Testament concerning the deity of Christ. In this verse, who was manifested in the flesh? Charlie Brown.

23. In the second part of First Peter 4:14, how do [they] speak of Christ? And, what do Christians do? Verbally; they breathe air.

24. Who are the three Persons of the Trinity in First John 5:7? Moe, Larry, and Curly.

25. Revelation 1:11 is another very important verse that proves the deity of Christ. In this verse Jesus said, "I am the Acute and Obtuse the vertical and the corresponding:"

 

I"m not sure if i should laugh or cry!!!

Until Next pOst, Adam

 

Rockfort,

Do you think you're cute? I don't, and I don't believe anyone with any reverence whatsoever for God's Word (of whatever translation) would either.

Do you think you're justified because you have nothing but contempt for the KJV? Do you think you have somehow done God a service? Well you have not. You have dishonored the Name and Person of Jesus Christ with your invidious and sacreligious ranting.

How could anyone, ANYONE, in whom dwells the Spirit of Christ say the things you have said even in jest?

 

I could, but then again I have a sense of humor.

The survey belonged in the humor forum in the first place. Rockfort treated it with all the seriousness it deserved.

Joshua

P.S. #7, by the way, is my favorite.

[ September 24, 2001: Message edited by: Rev. Joshua Villines ]

 

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rev. Joshua Villines:
I could, but then again I have a sense of humor.

The survey belonged in the humor forum in the first place. Rockfort treated it with all the seriousness it deserved.

Joshua

P.S. #7, by the way, is my favorite.

[ September 24, 2001: Message edited by: Rev. Joshua Villines ]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Big surprise!! The Irreverend Joshua Villains actually AGREES with Rockfort? I think I'm going to fall over and die of a heart attack from that big surprise!

[ September 24, 2001: Message edited by: Aaron ]

 

hey, whose side is this Rockfort on anyway?!!!

almost killed me ... with laughter.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rockfort:
1. Fill in the missing words in Matthew 5:44. "Love your enemies, hang them that curse you, give cyanide to them that hate you, and pray for them that lick your nostrils and persecute you."
:"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

 

4 & 16 are hurting me. Rockfort your cracking me up brother.
Russell

 

Aaron
Was that an attempt to be clever with Reverend Villines or is your spellcheck disabled?
Russell

 

You, my friend, are a sick man!

 

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rhoneycutt:
Aaron
Was that an attempt to be clever with Reverend Villines or is your spellcheck disabled?
Russell<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

There, I added a Graemlin to the aforementioned post to clear up any confusion.

Spellchecker on and functioning properly.

 

O.K. I have a serious question here. I cannot imagine that anyone in my age group (18-40) would be able to find the KJV readable or useable, in light of its antiquated language and the advances in manuscript discovery and translation that have improved significantly in the last forty years or so.

I'm still amazed at the discovery that there is a KJV-only movement among Baptists. I am curious as to the age of the people that hold this view. It would seem to me that KJV Only people would be from the older generation.

 

ellis,

Don't be ridiculous. The only reason you find the KJV unreadable is because you are not used to reading it. That's all.

Do you honestly think that the English language has changed drastically in the last forty years? What about 100? Ever read Tom Sawyer or Huckleberry Finn? Or Sherlock Holmes? That was the language of the common literate man. Sound anything like the KJV?

Readability is not an issue.

BTW, I'm 36 and I read the KJV like it was the morning paper. My oldest girl is 9 and she has no more of a struggle reading the KJV than she would the morning paper. My second oldest is 7 and she struggles with Sally, Dick and Jane.

 

Not a viable issue in the KJVO controversy, anyway.

 

&gt;&gt;Do you honestly think that the English language has changed drastically in the last forty years? What about 100?

40 = 100 = 400 = 1,000!

&gt;&gt;Ever read Tom Sawyer or Huckleberry Finn? Or Sherlock Holmes? That was the language of the common literate man. Sound anything like the KJV?

hmm, does it? going further, ever read Beowulf or Sir Garwain? what's ur point?

&gt;&gt; readability is not an issue.

never was. honesty is.

&gt;&gt;BTW, I'm 36 and I read the KJV like it was the morning paper. My oldest girl is 9 and she has no more of a struggle reading the KJV than she would the morning paper. My second oldest is 7 and she struggles with Sally, Dick and Jane

which morning paper do u read?