The Movie Theatre

I wasn't meaning I am not a part of that,just meaning that wouldn't it be great if all the Christain community would see that and obey. It was a very general comment. I believe God sanctifies us(sets us apart),but I also believe there are many christians in disobedience.

 

I stand on my previous post. Jesus does not approve of most of current cultural media, because it does not glorify him, but rather the sensual and worldly things of this life. That is not my opinion, but the opinion of Scripture. The movie theater and the movie industry does not glorify our blessed Lord!

"Come out from among them and be ye separate and touch not the unclean thing....cleanse yourselves from all filtiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God."

[ March 30, 2002, 08:55 AM: Message edited by: Circuitrider ]

 

quote:

Originally posted by Ernie Brazee:
Yes Adam I am missing so much, but how much more could you gain if you
spent the movie
time in the Word of God?

An expected response from Josh, who sees no need to live Godly in Christ, mocks the Word of
God, and ridicules anyone who even thinks of putting Christ first in their lives. Then has the
audacity to put Rev. in front of his name. What do you teach in your church? Do you even
believe anything is sin? Maybe that is old fashioned and no longer applies.

As for Adams post, no you are not part of that community, you are not set apart from the world, but are living to please self, not God.

Ernie

 

You don't really have a right to say that Ernie. I doubt that you know Brother Adam personally and even if you did, "Matthew 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"

Your judgement is unfair and unscriptural.

 

One at a time:

(1) I think all Christians are called to live a life that reflects the holy nature of Christ rather than the sinful nature of humanity.

(2) Never, under any circumstances, have I ever mocked the Word of God (that is - the Christian Bible - for those of you who think I might try to split hairs here. I have over 1000 posts here, and several sermons posted online. Find anywhere I've mocked the Word of God. I am a Christian minister which means my most sacred responsibility is teaching and interpreting Scripture. The fact that I come to different conclusions on some issues does not mean that I mock the word of God.

Of course, you might simply be making this irrational attack because of your unwillingness to respond to me pointing out the hypocricy of your previous post. While claiming to avoid finding the good in movies because it's not worth wading through the sex and violence; you sent Adam to a book that is filled with sex and violence.

(3) Challenging the modernistic legalism of fundamentalism is not the same as "ridiculing anyone who even thinks of putting Christ first." As a matter of fact, that's a ludicrous claim. I've paid a fairly high professional toll for my willingness to put Christ first over doctirnal legalism. I commend anyone who seeks to put Christ first in their lives. My problem with fundamentalism is that it's generally more about putting a political agenda first.

(4) The church put "Reverend" in front of my name. They can take it away any time they like.

(5) I teach that sin is when we put our priorities over God's priorities. I teach that people are inherently sinful, and cannot be free from sin with out the transforming presence and love of God. I encourage confession and repentance both corporately in worship and privately in prayer. In fact, we have a Prayer of Confession in worship every Sunday. During that time we silently confess our sins, make a corporate statement about our sinfulness, and acknowledge God's forgiveness through Christ.

I'm not sure what would lead you to such hyperbolic criticims, except perhaps that you have so little contact with non-fundamentalist Christians that you forget that we are Christians too.

Joshua

 

Josh,

Sorry but anyone that would refer to the Bible as being in the same context as godless movies is lacking something in spirtuality.

Ernie

 

Actually, the Bible contains an extraordinary amount of sex and violence.

I guess that's why they make so many movies about it.

Mike

[ March 29, 2002, 01:49 PM: Message edited by: Smoke_Eater ]

 

I don't think we're talking about the same Rev. Josh. I've never seen him do any of those things here.

Mike

 

Ernie,

Why are you here? You seem to have a some serious problems with the idea of living in the freedom of Christ. If all you think a Christian was made to do is read the Bible, then you better stop reading this. By living in the freedom of Christ, we are free to enjoy God's creation. He did not create the mountains to be ignored, the oceans to be left untouched. This creation, He created for His own glory, for us.

Yes Ernie, study the Bible, you seem to lack an understanding of not judging others, and avoiding legalism. But then again, you wish to be stubborn and be convinced that anything Ernie believes is evil, is evil. So be it. I can't change your heart, and niether can anyone else here. If you choose to go on leaning on your own understanding and not learn from others, so be it. That is your choice, that is your freedom as it was given to you by God.

I only ask that you stop judging others who choose to live their lives for God differently than you do.

UNP
Adam

 

I agree, Adam. If anything kills the Baptist church, it will be the legalism that is choking it.
Noone here has proposed to be of the world.

 

Adam, well done! I wish I could have responded so eloquently when I was your age, most of the time I just felt like "Little Rabbit Foo Foo, hopping thru the forest, scooping up the field mice and bashing them on the head"! Opps, sometimes I still feel that way, and I know that is not RIGHT!
(What I just said was not intended to hurt anyone's feelings, I promise, if it did, I'm truly sorry, okay?)
Sue

 

I have no comment. Just wanted to see it in print again.

 

Quote:

It is hypocritical, especially if your objection to the cinema is based on the content of the movies. If that's the case, then simply changing the location at which they're viewed doesn't solve the problem.

Amen! That is why you throw out the television.

(Ps. 101:3) I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.

Why should Christians watch actors on television even pretend to be practicing sin? An even better question, WHY WOULD WE WANT TO?

(Deut. 7:26) Neither shalt thou bring an abomination into thine house, lest thou be a cursed thing like it: but thou shalt utterly detest it, and thou shalt utterly abhor it; for it is a cursed thing.

[ March 29, 2002, 10:10 PM: Message edited by: Sovereign Grace ]

 

Why throw the baby out with the bathwater? Just because there are tons of filth on tv doesn't mean you can't get descent shows ....in fact there are more than plenty of good shows on tv to watch. To me that is just another peice of legalism.

karen

 

Throw out the television? Then how would I run the vcr that shows the tapes that my wife and I watch and grandchildren, too? Tapes are an excellent way to control what children or grandchildren watch. And guess what - they don't have to come from Blockbuster...or even be secular.

 

Karen- have you ever seen 7th heaven? Great show!

UNP,
Adam

 

Sovereign Grace asked:

Why should Christians watch actors on television even pretend to be practicing sin? An even better question, WHY WOULD WE WANT TO?

You assume that portraying sin implies approval of it. While that might be the case, is it not also possible that they portray sin and evil because they are sinful and evil and are at least implicitly "teaching" against them? Is it not implicit in most action-hero movies, for example, that terrorism, mass murder, grand theft, kidnapping, and other assorted villainy are bad, and that when the hero dispatches the villain during the climax we are meant to see that justice has been served?

One might argue, with the same logic, that we ought not read Pilgrim's Progress because of its portrayal of sin, or the Left Behind books because they portray the Antichrist blowing up major cities, persecuting "tribulation saints," praying to Lucifer, and so forth.

 

I agree. I always wondered if people who think this way take a marker and cross out the stories of Sodom and Gomorrah, David and Bathsheba, Noah being drunk and nekkid (he was nekkid, not naked - there is a difference!) or that dirty ol' Song of Solomon.

Mike

 

If you believe that a movie will cause someone else to stumble, then I suggest you watch it in privacy at home. Unfortunately, we each must decide if we can glorify God while watching MONSTER'S BALL or THE PANIC ROOM.

In my experience, I try to tell people about the godlessness in a movie versus the ungodlessness in it when I get the chance.

You must always disassociate yourself with the real motives in movies. Instead, create your own spiritual agenda for watching movies. You must fortify your heart and prevent the messages in all movies from penetrating your spiritual constitution in Christ.

Whenever I watch a movie, I always pray to God to fill my mind with the way that he wants me to understand the film.

In Christ, Jamal5000