Hey Benjamin. I find God dispenses help in the time of need. He did this as He revealed to those the dry land as He divided the Red Sea. We can clearly see a dispensation of God as He divides out Paul from all men, separating him from his own people, and the Gentiles, in order to reveal to Him His heavenly gospel. God dispensed His power in dividing the light from the dark, revealing the first day.
Do we see a dispensation of division or the power of God’s grace toward all men being completed through His Glory. I will figure the capitalization of “Him His” was referring to God or a typo. I think it clear that Paul said it was to fulfill the Word of God (Col 1:25) that’s not division but completeness of that which was hid, Col 1:26 and further Paul got a little ticked at the mere thought of dividing the gospel:
(1Co 1:13-15) Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul? I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius; Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.
But, as example to make prophecy fit, wasn’t it necessary to “divide” prophecy? Jesus says in Matthew 11:13, ” For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.” John is revealed to man as God will be giving a gospel he will preach. God has separated John from the others of his people, and this separated one will preach the revealed gospel of “repent and be baptized for the remission of sins, to the nation of God." Now if God had not separated John out of prophecy, and revealed to John his gospel, could prophecy as prophesied of the forerunner of Jesus have been revealed. God separated out John as He gave John his dispensational gospel for the Jew of “repent and be baptized for the remission of their sins”. This is a new gospel now revealed for God has separated prophecy, and this revelation in God’s granting to the Jew His grace with their work, will allow progression to the next step, which of course leads to Jesus Christ. I believe that will hold water.
It’s all part of God progressively revealing His plan of salvation on one foundation; I don’t see it as separating but building on. If I build a house of bricks on top of a foundation I wouldn’t divide the bricks in the plan but put them near as to assemble them all together.
Peter built on that foundation, as did Paul, but Paul tells us he will not build on top of another man's (Peter') foundation. Both foundations are on the same cornerstone. In the Temple are the Holy Place and the Most Holy Place
Yes, but first Paul said he had “fully” preached the gospel of “Christ”. He won’t build upon the same foundation because he’s building another part but of the same house, one rock to build upon, one baptism consisting of faith; all did eat of the same spiritual meat, drink the same spiritual drink, faith in God’s promise of salvation by that Rock that was with them, Christ.
(1Co 10:1) Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
(1Co 10:2) And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
(1Co 10:3) And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
(1Co 10:4) And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
It doesn’t strike you odd that John the Baptist never preached the “good news” of the Cross, nor Jesus; Peter or the others.
No, not with the understanding it wasn’t time for the way (John 14:6) of atonement to be revealed yet; Jesus told others on several occasions not to tell anyone for good reason.
(1Co 2:8) Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
In Acts 2:38 Peter is still preaching the gospel of John the Baptist. This is the gospel the Catholic church believes. They believe they are extension of Peter and the church of James, the church of works. Is that the gospel we are to believe?
Well, see the Catholics shouldn’t be dividing things like that either.
You know what the everlasting gospel of God is? I believe we see it in Revelation 14:6-7, ”And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, 7. Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.”
Yes, that lines up well with the one gospel made before the foundation of the world, a promise from the Father to the Son, the Creator, that every “every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people”, will hear the good news and every knee shall bow.
At my young age of salvation, that was what brought me to believe on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ for my salvation. I was afraid I would die and go to hell. It is so easy for us to look back, after having the benefit of the knowledge found after Damascus Road.
Amen, great, doesn’t this show the beauty of God’s plan to have that veil removed, (2Co 3:14) But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same veil untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which veil is done away in Christ.
Those then had no idea of the notion of coming through faith.
You don’t think they thought the blood of bulls and goats saved them do you?
But coming though the blood of Jesus Christ was an impossibility for the likes of Moses and David. They didn’t know by what name they would be saved, and they couldn’t come though Jesus’ blood, which had not been shed.
But they were to come through Jesus’ shed blood, He set the captives free.
It is only after we read Paul that we understand our salvation, and how others were saved in the dispensation of God that they lived in, and what He revealed to them at time that they must believe, and do.
Okay with that.
We are separated from that Jewish Pentecostal church in this dispensation.
I would say we were brought together under one complete gospel. Why separate? You just quoted that the everlasting gospel was for all in Rev 14:6-7.
As long as we believe His word as He dispenses it to us what you say is true. But King Saul did not have the gospel available to him that I have, so in that dispensation that is separated from ours, he could not be OSAS and sealed by the holy spirit into the Body of Christ.
Wouldn’t he be sealed by faith in the promise and hope in something not seen similar to us.
(Rom 8:21) Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
(Rom 8:22) For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
(Rom 8:23) And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
(Rom 8:24) For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
Granted the HS came to them in different ways.
We must believe what God tells while we live for our salvation is Now, and not believe what he tells someone else on the other side of the Cross.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God which we believe on that it is the truth and we today glory in the good news that has been fully revealed to us and are obedient to that just like they were obedient to what was revealed to them.