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Why So Hard To Find A Bible Church?

Discussion in '2000-02 Archive' started by latterrain77, Jul 19, 2002.

  1. Justified

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    Maverick,

    A GOOD HARDY "AMEN"
     
  2. Wisdom Seeker

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    Dear Latterrain77 ,

    Nope, I didn't have any trouble at all. I belong to a wonderful church that bases everything on the Bible. It's numbers have grown from 12 to 4,000 in the last 16 years. People are so thirsty for the Lord, and our church is that cool drink of water.

    Even though the church has grown, (and continues to grow) it still has that friendly small church feel. I thank God for a Pastor that sticks to the Word, and preaches it faithfully.

    Your welcome to move here to Lancaster, California and join ours if you can't find one in your area. ;)

    Wisdom Seeker
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    To Grasshopper and Justified,

    I have some Bible based advise to help you both:

    Matthew 22: 34-40 and Mark 12:28-31

    If we all will follow these 2 most important commandments we will begin to create an atmosphere that is conducive to mutual edification and learning and hopefully bring us closer to God. And, thereby make ourselves a better representation of believers in Christ Jesus.

    Wisdom Seeker

    [ July 22, 2002, 01:02 PM: Message edited by: WisdomSeeker ]
     
  3. Justified

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    Wisdom,

    LOVE, LOVE, LOVE. :D

    Thank you!
     
  4. Grasshopper

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    I'm afraid Justified would want to "separate" from me.
     
  5. Robert Ross

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    Hey Mav,
    I am so glad you said something. I was going to if you didn't. People are so quick to throw out the term "legalism" if you have standards. It is time that the people of God got over this "don't judge me" sickness and got into the Word of God and see what it says about judging. Read the following tract if you want a good understanding of what the Bible says about it.
    http://www.llano.net/baptist/isitright.htm

    God Bless,

    Bob Ross :eek:
     
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  7. Dr. Bob

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    How can you tell if someone is a legalist?
    </font>
    • They will say you are defining legalist wrong</font>
    • They will talk about salvation (only one aspect of legalism)</font>
    • They will begin teaching a code of conduct and action</font>
    As soon as I see the signs of a love for legalism (rules, actions to help you "please" God) in a church, I run the other way quickly!
    Check the Yellow page ads or Sword of the Lord listing and you will see such catch-phrases of a church you may want to avoid:
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    • KJVonly</font>
    • Separatistic</font>
    • Bus Ministry</font>
    • Fasting Growing</font>
    • AV1611</font>
    • Home of the Largest . . .</font>
    Now DON'T SHOOT ME - I am NOT condemning all, but have noticed this trend in 32 years of pastoral ministry. And it is just my opinion!

    [ July 22, 2002, 11:35 PM: Message edited by: Dr. Bob Griffin ]
     
  8. Helen

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    Hey WisdomSeeker -- Lancaster CA, eh? I lived there for four years: two out on 60th East between two alfalfa fields and 2 closer in on 20th East. Worked at Mira Loma Hospital.... It was country then. I could ride my mare into town and tie her up and do the grocery shopping.

    Sand storms. If you get rain pretty soon after you get grass growing in your doormat...

    Incredible moonlit summer nights and horizon to horizon sunsets.

    The L1011 was being built there then and sometimes the entire valley floor would rumble from the engines being tested underground.

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    Oh yeah, this is about churches.... :D

    I think the reason some churches, such as one mentioned above, grow so fast is precisely BECAUSE there are so few Bible churches now. I live in the Sierra Nevada foothills east of Sacramento and you know what we have up here: every blooming hippie who survived this long and came up here to start a church of some kind. I can go half a mile and pass three churches. A full mile adds about five more. You can be healed every Sunday. You can order the Holy Spirit to have a revival in your very own church. You can speak in tongues. You can get assured that you will be healthy and wealthy if God is blessing you. You can be successful if you claim all of God's promises. You can be a Mormon, a Jehovah's Witness or a Seventh Day Adventist. Or you can go super liberal with the Methodists and our own brand of Episcopalian. One minister knows Jesus shoots fire out of his eyes because it says so in Revelation. You can get the social gospel, the Catholic gospel, the liberal gospel, the political gospel, and about forty other varieties with personal touches.

    We go thirty miles to church.
     
  9. Wisdom Seeker

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    Dear Helen,

    Yep, that's the place. Wow, I thought you looked familiar... lol.

    And as far as the valley floor rumbling... I knew I heard that, I just couldn't get anyone else to hear it. Thanks for the information.

    Wisdom Seeker
     
  10. Wisdom Seeker

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    Dr. Bob,

    What is AV1611?

    Thank you,
    Wisdom Seeker
     
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    My how pious of you? Are you IFB? Probably.
    I don't think you have a right to judge anyone's heart. You may be "justified" but you sure ain't humbled.

    B.T.
    IMHO
     
  12. Dr. Bob

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    Authorized Version, translated into Jacobean English circa AD1611. If you have a King James Version, you have one of the updated AV1611.

    But there is a group of fundamentalists who actually use this phrase -- though they don't actually use an AV1611.

    They mean that it is the ONLY Bible. No other translation. Many even hold to a "re-inspiration" or guiding of the AV1611 translators to "correct" the Greek. We had one such preacher in our camp fellowship and had to exclude him for heresy over it.

    They will use terms like "providentially protected" or "preserved" to apply to only that AV1611 translation. Sad bunch. I don't think this is the forum to debate that; go visit the Bible Versions Forum and seach for AV1611.

    Like I said, I see it and run . . . :eek:
     
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