Which Coming?

Hello!

The Lord came to us FROM HEAVEN as a baby born in Bethlehem (Micah 5:2) He left 33 years later, and ascended back TO HEAVEN (Acts 1:9-12) WE all agree in the truth of His First Coming to us.

But what is next?

A 2nd coming in rapture followed by a 3rd coming 7 years later?

...or simply one more coming of the Lord; after the tribulation; in rapture and judgment; to establish His millennial reign upon the Earth?

You read the scriptures that discuss His Coming. Is there a 2nd and a 3rd Coming of the Lord taught to us in scripture?

1. I Corinthians 15:21-23 "For since by man cam death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at His Coming".

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

2. I Thess 2:19 "For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Are not even ye in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at His Coming?".

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

3. I Thess 3:13 "To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the Coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints."

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

4. 1 Thess 4:15-17 "For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the Coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and reamin shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

5. I Thess 5:23 "And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the Coming of our Lord Jesus Christ."

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

6. 2 Thess 2:1 "Now we beseech you, brethren, by the Coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,"

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

7. 2 Thess 2:8 "And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His Coming:"

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

8. James 5:7-8 " Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the Coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain. Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the Coming of the Lord draweth nigh."

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

9. 2 Peter 3:4, 10-12 "And saying, Where is the promise of His Coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. But the Day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noaise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the Coming of the day of God"

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

10.1 John 2:28-3:2 "And now, little children, abide in him; that, when He shall appear, we may confidence, and not be ashamed before him at His Coming. If ye know that He is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him. Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what shall be: but we know that, when He shall appear, we shall be like Him; for we shall see Him as he is."

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

11. Revelation 1:7 "Behold, He Cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see Him, and they also which pierced Him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him. Even so, Amen."

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

12. Revelation 16:4b-17 "to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. Behold, I Come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon. And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done."

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

13. Revelation 19:11-16 "And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KINGS OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS."

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

14. Matthew 16:27-28 "For the Son of man shall Come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man Coming in his kingdom."

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

15. Matthew 24:3 "And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him, privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy Coming, and of the end of the world?"

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

16. Matthew 24:27 "For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the Coming of the Son of man be."

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

17. Matthew 24:29-31 " Immediateky AFTER the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man Coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

18. Matthew 24:37 "But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the Coming of the Son of man be."

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

19. Matthew 24:39 "And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the Coming of the Son of man be."

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

20. Matthew 25:6 "And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom Cometh; go ye out to meet him. And while they went to buy, the bridegroom Came: and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut."

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

21. Matthew 25:31 "When the son of man shall Come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

22. Mark 13:24 "But in those days, AFTER that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man Coming in the clouds with great power and glory."

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

23. Mark 13:34 "For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servnats, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch. Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning: Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping."

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3d?

24. Luke 17:24 "For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day."

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

25. Luke 18:8 "Nevertheless when the Son of man Cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?"

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

26. Luke 21:25-28 "And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man Coming in a cloud with power and great glory. And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh."

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

27. Titus 2:13 " Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious Appearng of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;"

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

28. I Corinthians 1:7-8 "So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the Coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Who shall also confirm you unto the END, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. "

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

29. 2 Thess 1:7-10 "And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be Revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; When he shall Come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day."

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

30. I Peter 1:13 "Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the END for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the Revelation of Jesus Christ;"

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

31. I Peter 4:13 "But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be Revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy."

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

32. Hebrews 9:28 "So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that Look for him shall he Appear the SECOND time without sin unto salvation."

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

33. Ephesians 4:30 "And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the Day of redemption."

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

34. John 14:2-3 "In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you. I will Come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also."

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

35. Philippians 3:20-21 "For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself."

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

36. I Thess 1:10 "And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come."

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

37. Psalm 50:3-5 "Our God shall Come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him. He shall Call to the heavens from above, and to the earth, that he may judge his people. Gather my saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice."

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

38. Revelation 22:7 "Behold I Come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book."

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

39. Revelation 22:12 "And behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be."

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

40. Revelation 22:20 "He which testifieth these things saith, Surley I Come quickly. Amen. Even so, Come, Lord Jesus."

Which coming of the Lord is this one? His 2nd or 3rd?

In Christ
Rev. 22:20 - Amen!

 

Hello!

"Last day" - it does not saying there will be another 1335 days after pretrib rapture. Last day means the very final day at the end of the world.

HankD,

Yes, you are right.

Honest, I admit telling you, I am fail to see rapture will happen 3 1/2 or 7 years earlier BEFORE the second advent in the Bible.

Please can you find where verse saying rapture will occur 3 1/2 or 7 years earlier before the second advent in the Bible??

I am still waiting for anyone to answer all of 40 questions on which coming.

Have a nice day!

In Christ
Rev. 22:20 - Amen!

 

Hello!

"Last day" - it does not saying there will be another 1335 days after pretrib rapture. Last day means the very final day at the end of the world.

HankD,

Yes, you are right.

Honest, I admit telling you, I am fail to see rapture will happen 3 1/2 or 7 years earlier BEFORE the second advent in the Bible.

Please can you find where verse saying rapture will occur 3 1/2 or 7 years earlier before the second advent in the Bible??

I am still waiting for anyone to answer all of 40 questions on which coming.

Have a nice day!

In Christ
Rev. 22:20 - Amen!

 

Hello!

I am still waiting for anyone who will answer all of these 40 questions.

In Christ
Rev. 22:20 - Amen!

 

Hello!

I know Acts 1:9-11 very well.

Do Acts 1:9-11 saying that Christ will come again twice??

I know Zech 14:4 very well.

Does Zech 14:4 saying Jesus' feet will touch on Mt. Olivet twice??

Rev. 3:10 is not talking about rapture or wrath. It is talking about temptations. You have to read John 17:15 is fits with Rev. 3:10. Jesus asked his Father in heaven, that He not take Christians out of the world(sound like rapture), but to keep(protect or guard) them from the evil(trials, worldly).

Also, 1 Cor. 10:13 is very clearly fit with Rev. 3:10. It tells us, that God is not allow us to face greater temptations, God knows how to care us, because he knows our weakeness. But it does not mean that we do not have temptation, of course all of us always face tamptations in our life, that we are able to bear it by escape from being fall into sin.

Good example - Joseph in Gen. 39:7-13. He faced master's wife(earlier I posted it- master's daughter, I made mistake) tempted him for sex. He refused. She tried to tempted him several times. When she touched his garment, he fled so immediately.

Same with 1 Cor. 10:13 tells us, that we have to carry temptations, but we can escape from it from being fall into sin.

Rev. 2:10 refers with Rev. 3:10. Rev. 2:10 tells us, that a Christian face perscutions to be suffering continue or endure till death, then receive the reward crown of life.

Same with Rev. 3:10-11 telling us, we are facing temptations, that we are endure with it, not give up, and we will receive the crown of life.

James 1:12 fits with Rev. 2:10 & 3:10-11 too. It tells us, that we should endure with the temptations till we die, then we will receive the crown of life according to the Lord's promise.

James 1:2 - "My brethren, count it all JOY when ye fall into divers temptations."

It tells us, that we should be joy when we are face temptations, trials, persecutions.

Rev. 3:10 is not talking about rapture and wrath. It is talking about temptations.

Church of Philadelphia in John's time, they were already face temptations. But many Christians throughout the church history, they already face temptations. Today, we as Christians are facing temptations. During Great Tribulation, Christians will face temptations.

We do not wait for "hour of temptation" - 7 year of Tribulation period. It is already happening to many Christians through the church history.

Matthew Henry's Commentary, his comment on Rev. 3:10: " By keeping the gospel they are prepared for the trial; and the same divine grace that has made them fruitful in times of peace will make them faithful in TIMES of persecution."

I agree with him.

Rev. 3:10 is not talk about rapture or wrath. It is talking about temptations.

Honest, I admit telling you, I am fail to see rapture will occur 3 1/2 or 7 years earlier BEFORE the second advent in the Bible.

Please show me where a verse saying rapture will occur 3 1/2 or 7 years earlier BEFORE second advent in the Bible.

Have a nice day!

In Christ
Rev. 22:20 - Amen!

 

Hello!

I know Acts 1:9-11 very well.

Do Acts 1:9-11 saying that Christ will come again twice??

I know Zech 14:4 very well.

Does Zech 14:4 saying Jesus' feet will touch on Mt. Olivet twice??

Rev. 3:10 is not talking about rapture or wrath. It is talking about temptations. You have to read John 17:15 is fits with Rev. 3:10. Jesus asked his Father in heaven, that He not take Christians out of the world(sound like rapture), but to keep(protect or guard) them from the evil(trials, worldly).

Also, 1 Cor. 10:13 is very clearly fit with Rev. 3:10. It tells us, that God is not allow us to face greater temptations, God knows how to care us, because he knows our weakeness. But it does not mean that we do not have temptation, of course all of us always face tamptations in our life, that we are able to bear it by escape from being fall into sin.

Good example - Joseph in Gen. 39:7-13. He faced master's wife(earlier I posted it- master's daughter, I made mistake) tempted him for sex. He refused. She tried to tempted him several times. When she touched his garment, he fled so immediately.

Same with 1 Cor. 10:13 tells us, that we have to carry temptations, but we can escape from it from being fall into sin.

Rev. 2:10 refers with Rev. 3:10. Rev. 2:10 tells us, that a Christian face perscutions to be suffering continue or endure till death, then receive the reward crown of life.

Same with Rev. 3:10-11 telling us, we are facing temptations, that we are endure with it, not give up, and we will receive the crown of life.

James 1:12 fits with Rev. 2:10 & 3:10-11 too. It tells us, that we should endure with the temptations till we die, then we will receive the crown of life according to the Lord's promise.

James 1:2 - "My brethren, count it all JOY when ye fall into divers temptations."

It tells us, that we should be joy when we are face temptations, trials, persecutions.

Rev. 3:10 is not talking about rapture and wrath. It is talking about temptations.

Church of Philadelphia in John's time, they were already face temptations. But many Christians throughout the church history, they already face temptations. Today, we as Christians are facing temptations. During Great Tribulation, Christians will face temptations.

We do not wait for "hour of temptation" - 7 year of Tribulation period. It is already happening to many Christians through the church history.

Matthew Henry's Commentary, his comment on Rev. 3:10: " By keeping the gospel they are prepared for the trial; and the same divine grace that has made them fruitful in times of peace will make them faithful in TIMES of persecution."

I agree with him.

Rev. 3:10 is not talk about rapture or wrath. It is talking about temptations.

Honest, I admit telling you, I am fail to see rapture will occur 3 1/2 or 7 years earlier BEFORE the second advent in the Bible.

Please show me where a verse saying rapture will occur 3 1/2 or 7 years earlier BEFORE second advent in the Bible.

Have a nice day!

In Christ
Rev. 22:20 - Amen!

 

Hello!

I have not see anyone post on these 40 questions of which coming for near 2 months.

Are all 40 questions difficult to answer?

Pretribulationism is a theory, it have no foundation or fundamental doctrine.

Honest, I FAIL to see rapture will occur 3 1/2 or 7 years earlier BEFORE the second advent in the Bible. You have to show me where a verse in the Bible saying rapture will occur 3 1/2 or 7 years earlier before second advent.

Do you believe pretribulationism is a sound right doctrine? If you think so, then you have to show me the solid evidence verses to support pretribulationism.

I am waiting to hear anyone to answer all of 40 questions on which coming.

In Christ
Rev. 22:20 - Amen!