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Eliminate Soda Pop for Good Health

Discussion in '2000-02 Archive' started by Dr. Bob, Nov 3, 2001.

  1. Dr. Bob

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    IS POP POISON? HERE ARE SOME SOFT DRINK FACTS THAT MAY BE HARD TO SWALLOW

    If you are like the average American, you will drink more than 40 gallons of soda pop this year, unaware of the negative effects that many ingredients may wreak upon all areas of your body.

    We've mentioned on more than one occasion that soft drinks (carbonated beverages) are one of the worst enemies of women. It's one of the main contribution factors to osteoporosis. It only takes one good gulp to prevent the body from absorbing calcium for the next 24 hours!

    In addition to the problems for women, soft drinks are terrible for children too. Sugar-free is worse than sugar drinks since they can contribute to literally hundreds of symptoms including headaches but don't get too cozy about sugar either! Twelve ounces of the most popular colas contain about 10 teaspoons of sugar. That's a rate of nearly one teaspoon of sugar per ounce! Non-cola carbonated drinks contain from 8 to 12 teaspoons of sugar, so they're no better.

    At canning time 50 PPM [parts per million] is all the aluminum that can be detected in canned pop. The problem is, aluminum gives up its molecules at an alarming rate. After a few months in storage a testing laboratory is likely to find in excess of 6,000 PPM in canned products such as soda pop or thirst quencher, and people consuming that much of an aluminum fix are likely to suffer degenerative metabolic disease accordingly.

    What makes colas worse is the amount of phosphoric acid in them, which can cause a whole lot of health problems now and in the future. A study of children who drank 11/2 liters of cola per week (man, MY kids drank that in a DAY) showed that cramps and seizures were associated with drinking this beverage. So were low calcium levels. And children need plenty of calcium to get into their bones (not phosphoric acid, which can contribute to kidney stones) to prevent osteoporosis later on.

    While they're still young, low calcium can cause your child to have muscle spasms, lowered intelligence, poor intestinal absorption of nutrients from their diet, and heart problems. And, I don't think I need to go into the ill effects of caffeine. Most parents wouldn't think of letting their child drink coffee but don't hesitate to let their children drink cola with caffeine! Duh!

    (Edited from July 1996 “Women’s Health Letter&#8221 ;)

    Other's thoughts on this health subject?
     
  2. Joy

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    I stopped drinking any kind of pop/soda about 10 years ago. That much caffeine usually makes me pass out literally ! (I have reactive hypoglycemia)

    When my husband was training for his blackbelt, he gave up pop for a time and lost 15 lbs.! Now I'm trying to get him give up the stuff again, since about 30 more crept back on. (Ah, middle age! [​IMG] )

    Honey, you're not supposed to be looking over my shoulder! :eek: :D
     
  3. Danette

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    Hello. My name is Danette. (Hello, Danette.) I am a recovering Mountain Dew addict...

    I really was a Mt. Dew addict. I drank 3-6 cans per day. But I went off them cold turkey in July 2000 because I was having heart problems, which were being significantly aggravated by the Mt. Dew. It took me about two weeks to detox -- I felt like I was fasting and had the flu. Very ugly.

    After that I substituted Sprite. But even though I had gotten rid of the caffeine, I could still tell it was affecting me negatively with sugar highs and lows making me fuzzy headed and sleepy, stomach cramping, etc. So now I'm drinking water (and it's not too bad). I haven't given up altogether, but now it's just an occasional thing.

    -- Danette
     
  4. Joy

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    Hi Danette. Welcome to sodapop anonymous! :D
     
  5. Danette

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    :eek: :D :eek:

    -- Danette
     
  6. Kathy

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    I WANT so badly to give up Pop that I'm near obsessed about it! I am "weight challenged" (LoL - politically correct eh?), so it would benefit me in that aspect. I gave it up TOTALLY for ONE week two weeks ago, and I lost 10 pounds! <jaw drop>

    But, just like SMOKING :eek: I'll eventually kick the habit...but only when I turn it over to God! (Side Note: 7 1/2 months SMOKE FREE! :D - Victory in Jesus!)

    Kathy
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    ~One by one, I'm handing over my worldly addictions to Christ, but not until I REALLY hand them over, am I able (or He that is in me) to finally win the battle! [​IMG] ~
     
  7. KeeperOfMyHome

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    Ick! Good topic Dr. Bob! We drink sodas/colas/pop mostly in the summer when we go to the race track on Thursday evenings from June - early August. Other than those 10 weeks, we don't buy sodas, though the children are allowed to order them when we go out to dinner. They also have them at their Mimi's house. They are pretty good about drinking water thruoghout the day. However, our drug of choice is sweet tea [​IMG] . . . remember, I am from the south! And my husband says he doesn't like caffeine free! LOL . . . I can't tell the difference.

    Anyway, when I drink colas, I feel really gross! Especially if I happen to have more than one can/glass in a day's time.

    I'm trying . . . er, I want to ween my family off of as much sugar as I possibly can. T'aint easy with a house full o'youngins though. And with the holidays upon us! I think if I kept and required the consumption of fresh, raw veggies and fruits I would feel better about their nutrition.
     
  8. Joy

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    My husband makes his caffeinated tea by adding a whole cup of sugar to a gallon of hot tap water and throwing in a few teabags. Then it sits overnight in the frig. Gross! [​IMG] Probably not much better for you than pop.
     
  9. Danette

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    I actually feel worse drinking sweet tea than sodas. For some reason tea gives me heart burn -- weird, I guess.
     
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    Joy,

    This is off topic a little so feel free to answer me in private message or email. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> I stopped drinking any kind of pop/soda about 10 years ago. That much caffeine usually makes me pass out literally ! (I have reactive hypoglycemia <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Do you know where on the web I can find info on hypoglycemia? My wife was recently diagnosed with hypoglycemia, and it will be another week before her appoitment with the diabetic counsler.

    Bill
     
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    I started a diet two weeks ago and the first thing to X off my daily habits was cola. I'm now two weeks cola free.
     
  12. SueLyn

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    I know this cola thing is bad for me...and when I go a while without a Diet Coke, I start thinking I should take peoples little heads right off their little shoulders. This, I know, is not a good sign. :eek:
    Sue
     
  13. Danette

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    Diet sodas are positively scary. The nutrasweet causes depression and migraine headaches, that I know of personally. I've heard of other things too, but it gives me migraines, causes severe depression in my brother (it took him a couple months to figure it out) and causes both in my mother-in-law. Spooky that something like that can cause radical personality change.

    -- Danette
     
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    Artificial sweeteners can the same symptoms as fibramyalgia (sp?).
     
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    About 5 years ago I decided to switch to diet sodas. I noticed I kept getting headaches for several days but thought nothing of it--just kept taking aspirin. One morning at work, I started drinking a diet coke after eating no breakfast. I got a severe headache. I made the connection between the nutrasweet and the headaches and have never had a diet soda since.
     
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    I had my last drink (of soda pop) on Christmas Day, 1997. This year will mark 4 years clean and sober!

    And I was a Diet Dr. Pepper addict (2 - 64oz Big Gulps a day). In the jungles of Costa Rica we had been out for hours. When we took a break at a little settlement, they had water (from a well??), beer, or coke. I drank none, but was terribly dehydrated later and probably SHOULD have had a drink.

    And does the craving ever go away? I have to drive past our A&W every day from home to office. THAT is cruel and unusual punishment and I know how much sugar is in that stuff! Had a deacon in my first church that owned an A&W and he would fill 25 gallon tank, dump in a bag of A&W brown junk, then bag after bag of sugar.

    Still crave it. Every day. But my body is a [large] temple of the Holy Spirit, so will try to curb my appetite for poison. Will stick with other poisons - white flour, white rice, white shortening, white sugar, . . . :rolleyes:
     
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    I gave up regular cola's, not of my own choice, but becuase I have no desire to be diabetic, and that was one of the first things to come off the list. (M&M'S were next :( ) I've switched to diet, but if they do the headache thing for me, I'll give them up too.
     
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    Dr. Bob Griffin's anti-soft-drink fearmongering tirade continues:

    IS POP POISON?

    No.

    It only takes one good gulp to prevent the body from absorbing calcium for the next 24 hours!

    False cause fallacy.

    The best-known study of the relationship between drinking carbonated beverages and bone deficiencies is the 2000 study of Grace Wyshak, "Teenaged girls, carbonated beverage consumption, and bone fractures." It specifically avoids making a causal link between drinking soda and calcium deficiency, citing a number of study limitations, including:
    <UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI>It does not distinguish between drinking beverages that are high in phosphorous (and may therefore lead to bone loss), and drinking beverages that displace the consumption of calcium-rich foods.
    <LI>There is no objective measure of bone mineral density.
    <LI>No survey of calcium intake in the subjects was taken.
    <LI>The study data was self-reported (and therefore probably unreliable).
    [/list]

    In short, so far there is no reliable research supporting the notion that increased soft drink consumption weakens bones, except insofar as the more pop you drink, the less milk (which is a. self-evident, and b. an argument for a more balanced diet, but not an argument against consuming soft drinks per se).

    Lest someone claim the culprit is the caffeine in cola, a similar study by Heaney and Rafferty published in th American Journal of Clinical Nutrition falls short of saying caffeine causes bone loss, saying (again) that the real cause could be a diet that displaces calcium-containing foods with soft drinks. (As an aside the same study, which does claim drinking carbonated beverages results in bone loss, also specifically disclaims a connection betwen calcium loss and phosphoric or citric acid intake.)

    Twelve ounces of the most popular colas contain about 10 teaspoons of sugar. That's a rate of nearly one teaspoon of sugar per ounce! Non-cola carbonated drinks contain from 8 to 12 teaspoons of sugar, so they're no better.

    And we can all use less sugar in our diet, but since sugar is not poison, this argument does not support the claim that soft drinks are poison. Non sequitur.

    At canning time 50 PPM [parts per million] is all the aluminum that can be detected in canned pop. . . . After a few months in storage a testing laboratory is likely to find in excess of 6,000 PPM in canned products such as soda pop or thirst quencher, and people consuming that much of an aluminum fix are likely to suffer degenerative metabolic disease accordingly.

    Aluminum cans are generally lined with plastic to prevent this sort of corrosion, but nonetheless it does happen. Again, this is not an argument in support of the claim that pop is poison. At best it argues that some containers are questionable, and that pop should be bought in bottles.

    What makes colas worse is the amount of phosphoric acid in them, which can cause a whole lot of health problems now and in the future.

    Then we should all stop drinking orange juice, then, because it has twice as much phosphoric acid in it as Coca-Cola (1.09% and 0.55%, respectively). Simply put, the level of phosphoric acid in cola is not dangerous.

    Conclusion: Of course pop isn't good for you if you guzzle it to the excusion of other, more healthy foods. That goes without saying. But is there any need to add fuel to the fire with all sorts of half-baked factoids about "poisons" that are really beside the point?
     
  19. SueLyn

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Danette:
    Diet sodas are positively scary. The nutrasweet causes depression and migraine headaches, that I know of personally. I've heard of other things too, but it gives me migraines, causes severe depression in my brother (it took him a couple months to figure it out) and causes both in my mother-in-law. Spooky that something like that can cause radical personality change.

    -- Danette
    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
    Aaaahhhhh! Okay, this I've never heard of, and yes, it is scary. I switched to diet coke and equal sweetner in my coffee at the same time. This is was about 4 years ago. And yes, I do seem to have headaches on a somewhat regular basis, I just thought it was stress or a sinus headache. And DEPRESSION? I thought I was just getting old and cranky. :eek:
    But the reason I switched to diet was because I drank so much of the stuff, I thought I could save a few calories this way. Maybe I should rethink this, huh?
    Sue

    [ November 06, 2001: Message edited by: SuekieLyn ]
     
  20. ILuvAWANA

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    ACK! No *wonder* I've been getting headaches!! My thoughtful husband has always suggested I stop drinking sodas,,, maybe I should listen! *slaps forehead*

    Thanks for everyone posting the interesting information behind sodas!! [​IMG]
     
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