Where do babies go when they die?

TP,

Knowledge of the law and knowledge of Jesus Christ are two totally seperate things. The Muslim most certianitely does have knowledge of the law. In fact, Romans tells us we can know just by the nature around us.

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Adam

 

I think Davids Child is an excellent biblical example if someone needed a "text" to support babies go to heaven. But I don't need a text to know that a good merciful loving father would "fry" a newly born child, that is beyond me my comprehension to believe that and recconcile God as love. If I can find mercy in me for such little ones should I dare think God is less merciful then myself? Your concience knows that answer.

In Him Kim

 

Adam, we've had this discussion too many times to count so let me repeat once more: A man cannot make a decision for any baby to go to Heaven or not. That is God's decision.

God has told us in the Bible what his decision is in cases where the child has been baptized by water and Spirit in His name. He hasn't told us what His decision is in other cases.

 

I thought that you may have had a Biblical explanation. I didn't know that you were
referring to the belief of the RCC.

MEE

 

Yes, that is your interpertation of scripture. I suppose in this case we must rest on the words of Augustine: In essentials unity, in non-essentials liberty, in all things charity.

Peace be with you!

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Adam

 

And with you too Adam. Thank you for the kind response.

 

Just where does Nathan say all infants will go to heaven. It doesn't say anything of the sort.

Gn 17:9-14 Infants seperated from the covenant by age 8 days.

Rm 3:10-18 No one is righteous.

Hb 8:10 The Law is written on our hearts, in otherwords all have the knowledge of the Law.

 

you can not know the knowledge of the law until you are of age...how can a baby or a young child know that lieing is a sin, or committing adultry is a sin, or committing a murder is a sin? They can't.

All babies go to heaven. Period. When they are of the age to know the knowledge of the law that is when they are accountable for their sin.

[ May 03, 2002, 04:09 PM: Message edited by: buzz ]

 

What does knowledge have to do anything. The Bible says quite clearly that the Law is written on the hearts and minds of all men. It does not include any exceptions just because of age. To say that infants are going to go to heaven because they don't know they are sinning is ludicrous because then you can claim that pagans are going to go to heaven because they don't know they are sinning against the Law.

 

In Deuteronomy Moses is recounting the events that led them to wander in the wilderness for 40 years. He explains why they could not enter the promised land, not Even Moses was allowed to step foot upon it, he could only look at it from a distance.

But who did get to enter it? Let us see:

Now this isn't heaven, but it shows us that the Lord keeps his promises and does not hold those accountable who do not know the difference between good and evil.

Just another thought from the Word.

~Lorelei

[ May 03, 2002, 05:38 PM: Message edited by: Lorelei ]

 

PROMISE,
I AM NEW TO THE MESAGE BOARD. I READ WHAT YOU ASKED ABOUT BABIES WHO DIE.
PROMISE,I BELIEVE WITH ALL MY HEART THAT BABIES WHO DIE WILL GO TO HEAVEN. I KNOW THAT EVERYONE IS A SINNER BY BIRTH,WITCH MEANS ONCE WE REALIZE WE ARE SINNERS, WE MUST REPENT AND ASK JESUS TO SAVE US. HOWEVER, A BABY CAN NOT BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR IT'S SIN, BECAUSE IT IS NOT OLD ENOUGH TO REALIZE THAT IT IS A SINNER.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME TO READ MY REPLY.
YOUR SISTER IN CHRIST,
saved by grace 1999

 

Saved by grace 1999... Please refrain from using all capital letters... Use the same lettering as you see others use. Just a friendly reminder.

Since Gods knows who his children are why should this be a problem? Its a problem because Gods people make it one. Its not a problem for God! All his redeemed family will be in heaven and if they won't then tell me what did Jesus die for? Will he ever lose a one he died for? If he does then his death didn't mean much did it!... If he will somebody better reread their Bible because its not in my KJV!... Brother Glen

 

Hello Postees:
Jesus said in Luke 18:16, " Suffer the Little childrento come unto me and forbid them not for of such is the kingdom of God." In Mat. 18:3, Jesus said,Verily,I say unto you,except ye be converted and become as little children ye shall in nowide enter the kingdom of heaven." If children are born sinners,then Jesus is commanding us to become sinners to get into the kingdom of Heaven. This is NONSENSE.
Sin is the transgressionof Law.(IJn. 3:4. It requires one to know what sin is and violate the law. Sin is the act of missing the mark. Infants and little children are not born knowing this. Therefore,they are not born sinners.
Frank

 

This is NONSENSE.

Frank AMEN!

In Him Kim

 

Hi saved by grace,

I know a couple of adults who still haven't recognized that they're sinners.

God bless,

Carson

 

Amen Carson... Are you sure there is not a hint of Baptist running in your veins. I Timothy 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief. Since its what we are by nature that causes what we do I stand with the Apostle Paul... The condition causes the committing and not the reverse!... Brother Glen

 

Star,

You sure don't like to add much to the thread do you? Is it because your frustrated and don't have answers to what the other side is presenting? That maybe the other side has a point? It's okay to admit that you know. Sometimes I have to admit I have no defense to some Catholic and other church doctrines.

Or perhaps you could explain why you think its nonsense?

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Adam

 

But he could very well meant the grave, too, right ?
God has His own people, among babies as well as among adults. If God had meant to say in His word
that "all have sinned, except babies, and come short of the glory of God" He would have had that written down. Right ?
But He said, "all" and no exceptions, even the elect... or if you will, in deference to Arminians, those whom He has foreseen will "accept" Christ as Savior.
Babies are subject to the same Word. It is not the sins committed that will bring mankind to eternal punishment, it is the sin nature, inherited by Adam's posterity, babies included.
David cried out, "in sin did my mother conceive me", didn't he ? If that were true of him, the father, would that not be true of his baby, since David never claimed to have divinity ? Or was Bathsheba conceiving a sinless baby.

 

Carson:
You grow too fast. Last time I looked you had a chubby face with the brightest smile I ever saw.
What does your ma feed you ?