Passion Movie Gospel

Actually, it is. Jesus had to die for our sins. His physical suffering was the way to our salvation.

You do know that baptism and the sacraments were given to us by God, right? Jesus' blood washed our sins, but God gave us other things to do as a Christian. No one is adding anything to His blood or His death and resurrection. But adding things to yourself spiritually is not only godly, but prudent.

 

Psalm145 3 you hit it right on the head your works won't get you to heaven, its only through your faith in Jesus Christ as your savior (JN3:16) and in (EPH2:8-9) Gods word says "For by grace are ye saved thru faith; and that not of yourselves; it is a gift of God (9) Not of your works, let any man should boast." KJV

 

First and foremost, let me clarify myself for the sake of making everything a little easier. I do not believe in "making myself righteous enough" to get into heaven. The Catholic Church does not believe this or teach this, either. Those Catholics who say this are sadly mistaken.

Secondly, the above article byGeorge Whitefield is profoundly anti-Catholic and the anti-Catholic agenda that is so evident in it's very wording renders this article useless. It is not edifying to anyone in any way.

You seem to be under the impression that the sacraments are in the same category as "good works". I would like to inform you that the above idea is wrong. The sacraments bring you closer to God after you have already accepted His blood for your sins. God gave us baptism, Eucharist, marriage, holy orders, confirmation, reconciliation, and anointing of the sick to bring us closer to Him in our Christian walk. The Christian walk is not as easy as, "God, I accept you now let's have some Cheetos and talk about how others are wrong." You do things that bring you closer to Christ in your walk with Him such as Bible study, prayer, etc. While Catholics also do these things, the sacraments are held as much more sacred things.

So, once again, sacraments are NOT works.

 

Your statement is a bit contradictory here. First you claim that a Christian cries, then you say that the Christian is not a Christian. Wee bit confusiing to a simple mind such as me.

Also, Christ's physical death is very much necessary to the gospel. To deny such is to deny the gospel. Also, to say that The Passion does not state the reason of Christ's death is to be willfully ignorant of the dialogue in the movie, or to not have read the subtitles. It is abundantly clear as to why Christ died. Just pay attention to the garden scene at the beginning. You accusation that the movie does not present the reason for Christ's death is unfounded, and frankly, false. I pray that you made the accusation uninformed and did not willfully misrepresent the movie just because a Catholic directed it.

In Christ,
Neal

 

I really don't understand your reply with regards to my pointing out an obviously contradictory statement in your initial post. And also, your initial post is FALSE. Why Christ died is made clear in the movie. So dance all you want, but you could be big enough to admit you spoke misinformed or whatever the case may be.

Then don't talk about something you don't know anything about. How in the world do you know what is presented in the movie when you haven't seen it? I fear your whole argument is based on your anti-Catholicism and the fact that Mel Gibson is a Catholic.

How do you know what the movie says if you haven't seen it? From watching the previews? If you want to be taken seriously, know what you are talking about. If you don't, you embarrass yourself and the cause of Christ more than anything else.

In Christ,
Neal

P.S. I applaud you for wanting to present the gospel, but when you spread falsehoods right before it, how do you expect for someone to listen to you or give any creedance to what you say? That is the thing that bothers me most about your post, because they not only reflect on you, but on Christ as well since you present your views in the name of Christ.

 

What did the death of the Christ do for man?

It removed the penalty of sin from all men for all times, and put it ALL on "the MAN who is God" Jesus. Man is no longer condemned to die for his own sins! He can now by faith in God have everlasting life, in spite of all sins, except blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, that man may commit. That is why "THE PASSION" is so important.

The movie should have been named "THE ATONEMENT" because that is exactly what is depicted, the very act of atonement by Jesus, the Christ.

That act is not what saves man however, because if man does not come to believe in God, even though his sins are atoned for, he will still face the second death, the death of the spirit in the Lake of fire.

It is only those who believe in Jesus who is God, the Son, and/or God the Father (one God) that are spared from the lake of Fire!

 

It's probably called "The Passion of the Christ" because it is showing the passion that Christ had that He would sacrifice Himself for the souls of mankind. That takes a bit of passion, wouldn't ya say?

 

Agreed, but the movie certainly depicts the ACT of ATONEMENT. Woudn't you agree?

 

Which is why you will be happy to know that this was an independent film, not Hollywood, that was funded completely from Mel's own pocket.

You must be a better human than I to make such a bold statement. If praying and reading the Bible and having Bible study cvan bring you closer o God then why can't the Sacraments? Do you even know what they are? They mean nothing without believing in God, but they can most certainly bring you closer to Him once you do.

Spoken like a good Catholic. Hee hee......

But God DID give us things to observe, ya know.

 

yes, this is an outrageously distorted film from a man who has no clue what salvation is--check out his fringe church, masochistic stigmata mystic inspiration, his silly comments on the Diane Sawyer interview...

..."we are all God's children {LIE: only those who are born again are}"

..."everybody goes to heaven, us Christians just have an EASIER RIDE there"

Mel is a confused, disturbed lover of ultra-violence, who wanted to make a lot of bucks prior to retiring from filmmaking.

We evangelicals are funding his fringe church that is Latin Rite and anti-Vatican II, his retirement, his arrogance, and his insanity.

Free preview showings to church leaders was a good marketing tactic. Too bad Jewish leaders were basically not allowed in. And Jimmy DeYoung said he had to sign something prior to viewing the preview screening, and subsequently must "be careful" what he says about the Passion movie monstrosity.

Not the Gospel. Not an evangelical tool. Not a reverent and accurate depiction of the last 12 hours. Not fit for consumption by children, elderly, folks with nervous problems and nightmare prone. Not giving the resurrection, ascension and Pentecost proper attention. Not providing the context for all the brutality inflicted on our Savior.

So why go see it? I never will. I'll warn everyone to avoid it and go see decent Christian films that at least try to be faithful to Bible text and respect to our Lord.

Vaaaaaaasppp--you've just been "vasperized"!!!!!

 

Imagine that, "vasperized"? And it didn't hurt at all! Amazing!

 

Why? Because it really shows how ugly our sin is? I think we don't like seeing what it really cost.

In Christ,
Neal

 

Oh Amen, Neal!