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Church of Christ? What?
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Adam:
First , I have no church. I am a part of the body of Christ.
Two, wrong, we have no secretary or any other authority or rule to follow ( Heirarchy).
The Lord's Church is organized per the divine instructuions of I Tim. 3:1-11 and Titus 1:4-9.
This is authorized by Christ who has ALL authority and rule. Mat. 28:18.
First , I have no church. I am a part of the body of Christ.
Two, wrong, we have no secretary or any other authority or rule to follow ( Heirarchy).
The Lord's Church is organized per the divine instructuions of I Tim. 3:1-11 and Titus 1:4-9.
This is authorized by Christ who has ALL authority and rule. Mat. 28:18.
Brother Adam
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First , I have no church. I am a part of the body of Christ.
If you do not attend church then you fail to follow the New Testament.
The Lord's Church is organized per the divine instructuions of I Tim. 3:1-11 and Titus 1:4-9.
This is authorized by Christ who has ALL authority and rule. Mat. 28:18.
1 Tim. 3:1-11
This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. [2] A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; [3] Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; [4] One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; [5] (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) [6] Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. [7] Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. [8] Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre; [9] Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience. [10] And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless. [11] Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things.
Titus 1:4-9
To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.
[5] For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee: [6] If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly. [7] For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre; [8] But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate; [9] Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
I agree, now when are you going to agree with these scriptures? They are instructions for the leaders of the Christian Church. Of which you say you are not a part of: "I have no church"
Bro. Adam
If you do not attend church then you fail to follow the New Testament.
The Lord's Church is organized per the divine instructuions of I Tim. 3:1-11 and Titus 1:4-9.
This is authorized by Christ who has ALL authority and rule. Mat. 28:18.
1 Tim. 3:1-11
This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. [2] A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; [3] Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; [4] One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; [5] (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) [6] Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. [7] Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. [8] Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre; [9] Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience. [10] And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless. [11] Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things.
Titus 1:4-9
To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.
[5] For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee: [6] If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly. [7] For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre; [8] But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate; [9] Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
I agree, now when are you going to agree with these scriptures? They are instructions for the leaders of the Christian Church. Of which you say you are not a part of: "I have no church"
Bro. Adam
Chem:
First, I would not be so hasty to criticize proof texts, As JESUS USED THEM. John 10:34, Psalms 82:6.
Second, I have provided the word of God for every position I have stated. You choose respond to the Bible by arraying scripture against scripture, or for the most part, you engage in making inflammatory remarks that show your ignorance and lack of self-control ( soberness of mind- Titus 2:2).
Third, as for your last post, you have followed your usuall pattern, you simply state your unsubstantiated opinion. I am in complete fellowship with all who follow the doctrine of Christ. Eph. 4;1-4,I John 1:1-4, II John 9-11.
Fourth, I do not fellowship those who do not follow the doctrine of Christ. II John 9-11.
Finally, I fellowship with those who follow the teachings of Christ as found in the New Testament. Mat. 28:18-20,Acts 2:42,II Tim. 1:13. II Thes. 2;15, Phil 3:16, I Cor. 11:1,2. No more no less.
First, I would not be so hasty to criticize proof texts, As JESUS USED THEM. John 10:34, Psalms 82:6.
Second, I have provided the word of God for every position I have stated. You choose respond to the Bible by arraying scripture against scripture, or for the most part, you engage in making inflammatory remarks that show your ignorance and lack of self-control ( soberness of mind- Titus 2:2).
Third, as for your last post, you have followed your usuall pattern, you simply state your unsubstantiated opinion. I am in complete fellowship with all who follow the doctrine of Christ. Eph. 4;1-4,I John 1:1-4, II John 9-11.
Fourth, I do not fellowship those who do not follow the doctrine of Christ. II John 9-11.
Finally, I fellowship with those who follow the teachings of Christ as found in the New Testament. Mat. 28:18-20,Acts 2:42,II Tim. 1:13. II Thes. 2;15, Phil 3:16, I Cor. 11:1,2. No more no less.
Brother Adam
New Member
Frank,
Do you fellowship with other believers? Where? A home? A building?
Bro. Adam
Do you fellowship with other believers? Where? A home? A building?
Bro. Adam
Adam:
I have no church. This means I do not OWN the saved. This is impossible as Christ owns the saved. Eph. 1:7,Col, 1:14, Titus 2:14,15.
I assemble with Christians on the first day of the week faithfully. Hebrews 10:24-26.
I worship in accordance with the divine instructuions of the New Testament. Acts 2:42, Acts 20:7, I Cor.11:22-25, I Cor. 16:1,2, Eph. 5:19, I Thes 5:17.
I faithfully keep all the things commanded of me. Rev. 2;10.
Frank
I have no church. This means I do not OWN the saved. This is impossible as Christ owns the saved. Eph. 1:7,Col, 1:14, Titus 2:14,15.
I assemble with Christians on the first day of the week faithfully. Hebrews 10:24-26.
I worship in accordance with the divine instructuions of the New Testament. Acts 2:42, Acts 20:7, I Cor.11:22-25, I Cor. 16:1,2, Eph. 5:19, I Thes 5:17.
I faithfully keep all the things commanded of me. Rev. 2;10.
Frank
Brother Adam
New Member
How does going to church have anything to do with owning the saved? You're really beating around the bush here, or so to speak.
Okay....hrm....how do I phrase this. Let's say I am visiting Pine Mountain, GA and wish to visit with you and the other Christians that you gather with on the first day of the week. Where would I go?
Bro. Adam
Okay....hrm....how do I phrase this. Let's say I am visiting Pine Mountain, GA and wish to visit with you and the other Christians that you gather with on the first day of the week. Where would I go?
Bro. Adam
Adam:
I assemble at a building on Bartley Rd. in LaGrange Ga. I do not own the building nor did I die to redeem the members. Christ did this. I Peter 1:17-19. Therefore, I am a member of Christ's body his church. I am a servant in his church. I will inherit my gracious blessings of etrenity when I die or he returns. I Pet.1:1-5.
If you visit me, you would attend worship with the saved of Christ. Acts 2:47. If you mean, where do you attend ( have you got a church?). Yes, I am a part of the saved of Christ that meets on Bartley Rd. in Lagrange Ga. I hope this will clear-up this matter.
I assemble at a building on Bartley Rd. in LaGrange Ga. I do not own the building nor did I die to redeem the members. Christ did this. I Peter 1:17-19. Therefore, I am a member of Christ's body his church. I am a servant in his church. I will inherit my gracious blessings of etrenity when I die or he returns. I Pet.1:1-5.
If you visit me, you would attend worship with the saved of Christ. Acts 2:47. If you mean, where do you attend ( have you got a church?). Yes, I am a part of the saved of Christ that meets on Bartley Rd. in Lagrange Ga. I hope this will clear-up this matter.
Brother Adam
New Member
Bartley Rd Church of Christ - Members 50 Phone 706-882-5256
1638 Bartley Rd, Lagrange, GA 30240-8353
Service Times SUN 10:30a 6:00p Classes SUN 9:30a WED 7:00p
This wouldn't happen to be your church would it?
Bro. Adam
1638 Bartley Rd, Lagrange, GA 30240-8353
Service Times SUN 10:30a 6:00p Classes SUN 9:30a WED 7:00p
This wouldn't happen to be your church would it?
Bro. Adam
Brother Adam
New Member
Also, since you ask, I attend North Park Baptist Church. Membership consists of those who confess Christ as their Lord and Savior and are baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Of course, visitors are always welcome.
Bro. Adam
Bro. Adam
Cynic:
Which " List do I use?"
The collection for the saints is one the first day of the week according to I Cor. 16:1,2. I never said Rev 1:10 identified the day of collection.
Let me quote it for you. Now concerning the collection for the saints as I have given order to the churches of Galtatia, even so do ye. Upon the FIRST DAY of the week let everyone of you lay by in store as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come." I Cor. 16:1,2. By the way, this is in the New Testament after the book of Romans. It is not from as you say a " List."
I do not need a convention, synod, magisterium to teach and command me as to what I am to do. I have the all- sufficient word of God. II Tim. 3:16,17, Mat. 28:18-20.
I post scriptural references so people will read them. I find students of the scriptures will, indeed, search them to see if those things posted are so. Acts 17:11.
Which " List do I use?"
The collection for the saints is one the first day of the week according to I Cor. 16:1,2. I never said Rev 1:10 identified the day of collection.
Let me quote it for you. Now concerning the collection for the saints as I have given order to the churches of Galtatia, even so do ye. Upon the FIRST DAY of the week let everyone of you lay by in store as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come." I Cor. 16:1,2. By the way, this is in the New Testament after the book of Romans. It is not from as you say a " List."
I do not need a convention, synod, magisterium to teach and command me as to what I am to do. I have the all- sufficient word of God. II Tim. 3:16,17, Mat. 28:18-20.
I post scriptural references so people will read them. I find students of the scriptures will, indeed, search them to see if those things posted are so. Acts 17:11.
Chem:
ASSERTIONS ARE NOT PROOF.What makes me a denomination. Prove it!! On what scriptural basis do you say these things. BOOK, CHAPTER, and VERSE, please, not your feeling or opinion or imflammatory remarks. Take the Bible and Prove your contention or do the honorable thing and go in peace.
I have provided the evidence for the Church of the Bible. Is. 2:1-4 Micah 4:2, Joel 2:28 Daniel 2:44-47, Mat. 16:18, Mk. 9:1, Lk. 24: 46-50, Acts 2:1-47.
I have provided the evidence for the organizational pattern. ITim. 3:1-11, Titus 1: 4-9.
The basis for what is taught and practiced. Mat. 28:18-20.
The worship of God. Acts 20:7, I Cor. 16;1,2, Eph. 5:19,I Thes 5;17,I Cor. 11:22-25.
In each case, it is the word of God that is commanding and his word alone.
This is practicing New Testament Christianity. No more No less.
If you disagree with these particulars, please refute them by the USE OF THE SAME STANDARD I HAVE USED TO MAKE THEM... THE NEW TESTAMENT.
It is foolish for you to make a statement that I am a part of a denomination and then not even post a scripture as proof. Talking about a flawed Hermeneutic. It is apparent you have none.
I am a Christian. Acts 11:26. A member of the church of the Lord Jesus Christ who purchased her with his own blood. Acts 20:28, Acts 2, I Cor. 12:12, I Tim. 3:15,Mat. 16:18, Eph. 5:22, Rev. 20:1-3.
You,sir, as you have so stated, are a Lutheran, of which you CANNOT READ in the NEW TESTAMENT.
I have grown weary with your insults,unsubstantiated opinions and feelings. I am interested in the truth of the Bible, not insulting people regardless of there error or arrogant attitude.
I have presented the Bible for all my positions.
I have harmonized all the teachings I ave presented. I have not arrayed scripture against scripture.
I have answered ALL questions asked of me. I Pet. 3:15, not with my feelings, opinions or I think. I have provided the Word of God.
I have not misrepresented you as to what " you are religiously." In fact, I have mentioned it one time in this post.
I have not called you any names such as a drunken preacher or a hypocrite. I have called you, sir. I have been very gracious in this designation!!
In the future, I will ignore your post unless it carries with it scriptural references to evidence the positon so stated.
Frank
ASSERTIONS ARE NOT PROOF.What makes me a denomination. Prove it!! On what scriptural basis do you say these things. BOOK, CHAPTER, and VERSE, please, not your feeling or opinion or imflammatory remarks. Take the Bible and Prove your contention or do the honorable thing and go in peace.
I have provided the evidence for the Church of the Bible. Is. 2:1-4 Micah 4:2, Joel 2:28 Daniel 2:44-47, Mat. 16:18, Mk. 9:1, Lk. 24: 46-50, Acts 2:1-47.
I have provided the evidence for the organizational pattern. ITim. 3:1-11, Titus 1: 4-9.
The basis for what is taught and practiced. Mat. 28:18-20.
The worship of God. Acts 20:7, I Cor. 16;1,2, Eph. 5:19,I Thes 5;17,I Cor. 11:22-25.
In each case, it is the word of God that is commanding and his word alone.
This is practicing New Testament Christianity. No more No less.
If you disagree with these particulars, please refute them by the USE OF THE SAME STANDARD I HAVE USED TO MAKE THEM... THE NEW TESTAMENT.
It is foolish for you to make a statement that I am a part of a denomination and then not even post a scripture as proof. Talking about a flawed Hermeneutic. It is apparent you have none.
I am a Christian. Acts 11:26. A member of the church of the Lord Jesus Christ who purchased her with his own blood. Acts 20:28, Acts 2, I Cor. 12:12, I Tim. 3:15,Mat. 16:18, Eph. 5:22, Rev. 20:1-3.
You,sir, as you have so stated, are a Lutheran, of which you CANNOT READ in the NEW TESTAMENT.
I have grown weary with your insults,unsubstantiated opinions and feelings. I am interested in the truth of the Bible, not insulting people regardless of there error or arrogant attitude.
I have presented the Bible for all my positions.
I have harmonized all the teachings I ave presented. I have not arrayed scripture against scripture.
I have answered ALL questions asked of me. I Pet. 3:15, not with my feelings, opinions or I think. I have provided the Word of God.
I have not misrepresented you as to what " you are religiously." In fact, I have mentioned it one time in this post.
I have not called you any names such as a drunken preacher or a hypocrite. I have called you, sir. I have been very gracious in this designation!!
In the future, I will ignore your post unless it carries with it scriptural references to evidence the positon so stated.
Frank
ChristianCynic
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Goofy liar, you just did use a list. My list on this: Colossians 2:16, Romans 14:5, which make it plain we can 'regard' one day above another or not do so. Case closed on that one, bud.
ChristianCynic
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Franky boy, your statement: "The Lord's day is the first day of the week" If that statement is in scripture, give us book, chapter and verse. If that statement is not there, you are a liar, and THAT case is closed too.
I'm ROFL@U CC. Short memory?
CC posts a quote by Frank two or three posts up:
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Originally posted by Frank:
Cynic:
The Lord's day is the first day of the week. Rev. 1:10, I Cor 16:1,2 Acts 20:7. Pentecost the first Lord's day always is on the first day. Lev.23: 15,16. Your problem is not with a list, as I do not use one. I use the Bible.
Frank
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Goofy liar, you just did use a list. My list on this: Colossians 2:16, Romans 14:5, which make it plain we can 'regard' one day above another or not do so. Case closed on that one, bud.
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CC posts a quote by Frank two or three posts up:
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Originally posted by Frank:
Cynic:
The Lord's day is the first day of the week. Rev. 1:10, I Cor 16:1,2 Acts 20:7. Pentecost the first Lord's day always is on the first day. Lev.23: 15,16. Your problem is not with a list, as I do not use one. I use the Bible.
Frank
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Goofy liar, you just did use a list. My list on this: Colossians 2:16, Romans 14:5, which make it plain we can 'regard' one day above another or not do so. Case closed on that one, bud.
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R
Frank,
To provide a list of verses for members of your congregation who are in agreement with your statement of faith, and your basic theology, is one thing. They will gladly accept the extra references. Please keep in mind that we are not your congregation, and very few of us agree with you, therefore attaching a list of proof-texts is somewhat fruitless. We also have studied the Word of God, and can look at the references you have provided, and with just a cursory glance see that some of them were pulled out of context. What you need to do with your references (not necessarily all of them) is demonstrate your position by quoting the verse, and show how that verse teaches what you are teaching. The SDA's use the same verses you do to "prove" that all that worship on Sunday, and not on the Sabbath have the mark of the beast. They also provide that same list of verses, and more. What's to say they are right and you are wrong? Demonstrate using "your list" your position, instead of proof-texting, or your words are meaningless.
DHK
To provide a list of verses for members of your congregation who are in agreement with your statement of faith, and your basic theology, is one thing. They will gladly accept the extra references. Please keep in mind that we are not your congregation, and very few of us agree with you, therefore attaching a list of proof-texts is somewhat fruitless. We also have studied the Word of God, and can look at the references you have provided, and with just a cursory glance see that some of them were pulled out of context. What you need to do with your references (not necessarily all of them) is demonstrate your position by quoting the verse, and show how that verse teaches what you are teaching. The SDA's use the same verses you do to "prove" that all that worship on Sunday, and not on the Sabbath have the mark of the beast. They also provide that same list of verses, and more. What's to say they are right and you are wrong? Demonstrate using "your list" your position, instead of proof-texting, or your words are meaningless.
DHK
