Psuedo-Catholic Protestant Denominations

The first time I saw that word I thought it said DOMinatrix.

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You are from England?

I lived there for 3 years while I was serving in the USAF.

You know where RAF Fairford is?

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No they weren't.

That is truly the funniest thing you have said yet!

Sheesh.

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How old am I? Are you serious?

Tell me how that is relevant to the discussion and I'd be happy to tell you. Or you can find my age on my website.

It's not just me who believes it. It seems odd that you want me to defend what Christians have always believed, on a Christian board.

Nevertheless - if you want to see Bible verses supporting Jesus being fully God and fully man, the following site is quite comprehensive:

Jesus' two natures

Helen/AITB </font>[/QUOTE]ACTUALLY, I have a point.

You said it was a 'Catholic' doctrine.

I asked you if it was in the Bible.

NOW that you have confirmed that it IS in the Bible, I can say, what I have thought ALL ALONG.

It isn't a Catholic doctrine.

It is a BIBLICAL doctrine.

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Well, considering that 'Catholic' means universal, and we CLEARLY know that not EVERYONE in the universe agrees with them, that we DO need to clarify what is UNIQUELY Catholic, and what is foundationally Biblical. Like the Marian doctrines, clearly some of it is Biblical, but you DO NOT see it in the universal Body of Christ. It is uniquely Catholic. Perhaps I should have been specific and said UNIQUELY Catholic.

And it would be equally strange if that was what I was saying, but since I said nothing of the sort, this is a moot argument.

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I guess not!

Seriously though, the Catholic Church, no matter how hard they try to 'prove' it, is NOT the Apostolic Church from the first century. Many claim to be that 'one true church', but they just aren't. There are WAY too many things that they believe that are NOT in accordance with the Apostolic doctrines.

We could go crazy trying to define all of them, but I will just point out ONE, and that will make this point valid, and forever prove that they ARE NOT the First Century Apostolic church.

They don't break the bread.

NOW, some will argue 'yes they do', but it is an ACCEPTED fact, even among Catholics, that they DO NOT break the bread. The host that is actually put in the Monstrance is broken, but that only makes 4 pieces, so the 'hosts' that are actually given to the laity are unbroken, intact little circular wafers.

NOT broken.

What difference does it make? ALLOT. Why? Because the Apostles BROKE the bread.

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Ah the memories. Are you close then? I don't remember where everything is over there, I left in '99. I know this has nothing to do with the discussion, I was just making conversation.

Could you provide a link or post the actual statement that you are referring to?

There aren't many concepts that I have trouble getting my brain around. The Trinity is one though. It not only doesn't make sense, but it is also not provable from Scripture. It can be supported well enough for MILLIONS to believe it, but careful study and prayer has led me to a different understanding of the Godhead.

Another concept is quantum physics.

Have no idea how that works.

Don't care either.



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Did I say Mary was part of the TRInity? Let's see, I'm not really that good at math, but let me tackle this one. Father, ok that's ONE, Son, ok, TWO, uhhhh, HOLY SPIRIT, ok that's THREE, alrighty, trinity is a unity of THREE, ok WE'RE done! Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Not really any room for someone else. I guess the CC can't count. Because they DO put her in a position of authority. I have discussed this with Catholics here and in 'real' life, and they ALL tell me the same thing. We DON'T worship her. YEAH RIGHT. I used to BE Catholic. I can't even FATHOM how someone could try to say they DO NOT worship Mary. Queen of Heaven. Spouse of the FATHER, SON, AND HOLY SPIRIT, making her ONE with them. Please, by all means, explain THAT away.

I'm very sorry to hear that. You went from a correct doctrine, to a totally incorrect doctrine. I feel your pain in the study department. You see, if it was an EASY concept (because HIS YOKE is EASY) then you wouldn't have nearly gone blind. I did the same thing you did, tried REALLY hard to understand it. It is a 'mystery'. It is also quite sad that you don't see a difference in the trinity of CC and Protestants. You don't see it, because you want to think it isn't there. The difference in the CC and Protestants is that Mary is part of the leadership in heaven. The Trinity is pretty much the same. And the thing most in common? Both are false.

I'd like to read what you read on this. Do you remember what you read that taught you this?

Actually there ARE entire denominations in the Protestant circle that DO NOT believe in the Trinity the way that Catholics do. There is a difference between the Nicene Creed and my church's statement about the trinity. There are differences, but they end up being the same thing. False.

You're wrong. The root of the argument is non existent. I started this thread to discuss the doctrines that are similar in Catholics and Protestants. This thread wasn't started to argue.

ACTAULLY, if I am IN CHRIST, and CHRIST is part of the 'trinity' then YES, I am part of the Trinity!!

Amazing how that works.

I am a chronic name caller when it comes to the Catholic Church.

I will spare you though.

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Last I checked, the bread they were using was unleavened bread, and that kind of bread is usually very brittle. They broke the bread. They made a piece that was 'whole' into smaller pieces. That's not really a difficult concept. Well for some it might be.

break it.

Really? Is that 'new' dogma? Last I checked the 'Eucharist' was a WAFER host. Little round flat.

You're funny??? HA.

Let's see what JESUS did.

He took bread, blessed it, and BROKE it, and then GAVE it to the Apostles and said 'Take, eat, THIS is my Body which has been BROKEN for you'.

If they DO NOT break it, It is NOT His Body that was 'broken' for us.

It must be broken. Just like Him.

Why do you think they break the Monstrance Host?

For kicks?

NO. Because they know that JESUS broke the bread.

But then they DO NOT break every piece. And the little pieces that they have are their OWN little 'breads'. They aren't broken.

You said 'foccocia' style.... do you mean like leavened pizza bread?

If you ARE Catholic NOW, this thread is for Protestants. The reason I am doing it now, is because our Catholic brethren are taking off for Lent.

Not trying to be rude, but if you want to discuss your doctrines start your own thread.

Thanks!

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Singer calls me 'Spitfire', you will soon see why.
Good to meet you too!

Ok, that not only answered NOTHING, but it made no sense. I do not believe in the trinity, nor in Marian dogma, therefore, NOTHING about those 2 doctrines are clouding my perception. However, as you may NEVER see, there is obviously no 'showing' you.

Do you? That's funny. After 2 posts YOU think you understand and have 'clarity' on the matter with me?

NO, you added me. I don't believe in the trinity. It doesn't exist. Therefore how can I be part of it? And, last i checked, I am not a dude.

Yes, and there are more than just Baptists, and SDA's in this discussion.

I'm sorry, but when it comes to what I think, you don't have a pitchfork to stand on. If I say you are wrong about how you are percieving my thoughts, then YOU ARE WRONG. There is no argument there. Oh, and by the way, it's YOU'RE wrong, not YOUR wrong.

Actually someone else started that discussion in the middle of my question about the similarities to the CC and the PD's. This isn't a trinity thread. Read the opening post.

Don't blame them for the stupidity of the trinity doctrine. It was the Catholics who came up with it, remember????

Yes, and the little cups will say 'stupid-medicine'. All those who drink will IMMEDIATLY understand the Trinity mystery.



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